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JediMimeTrix t1_jabexpz wrote
I mean his reason was pretty sound tbh lol.
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Medcait t1_jabfzcg wrote
Pretty sure the constitution doesn’t talk about cocaine.
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Capt_morgan72 t1_jabl0z4 wrote
Wait. So the fine is the exact amount the cop spent on the cocaine? Sounds beyond reasonable to me. Means he can keep all the money he made on other sales.
Also seems like to me buying cocaine should be just as illegal as selling it. Regardless of intent or badge.
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Zenedarr t1_jabpb8i wrote
silly drugs. always in the headlines, but never any solution. I propose we make them MORE illegal. That will make people think twice about drugs if they are double illegal and then they will disappear from the earth and our kids will be oh so safe.
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Decent_Jello_8001 t1_jabzc1y wrote
So debtors jail and they are going to get away with it because his a drug dealer and no one really cares enough to make a fuss about it.
TheTabman t1_jabzism wrote
>He only made about $6,000 to $7,000 from the sales, he said, with the rest going to his cocaine supplier.
Reading the actual article is rather helpful to understand the details.
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chubbyakajc t1_jac7lqs wrote
Yup, you do it enough to the "undesirables" then you can do it to the general public with precedent
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Sir-Farts- t1_jacbgqf wrote
By making them more illegal, you make the drug dealers richer. good solution.
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Fragrant_Spray t1_jace21w wrote
Except this is Canada…
jamesda123 t1_jacef9a wrote
Johnny Canuck, then?
isnotgoingtocomment t1_jacfj92 wrote
Really? The “oh so safe” didn’t tip you off?
MaybeADumbass t1_jacfv6e wrote
I'm pretty sure that was sarcastic...
fkivxvii t1_jacglcd wrote
That’s what I tell people all the time.
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kashmir1974 t1_jaci3ri wrote
Dude should have saved some of his drug money.
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robbedigital t1_jacmen0 wrote
It is.
Government Agencies deal more drugs than anyone
CAESTULA t1_jacmwht wrote
Does the Canadian constitution say anything about debtors prisons though?
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HYPR_LYTE t1_jacpxao wrote
In Vancouver, probably.
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X_Glamdring_X t1_jacrcuc wrote
Exactly. It’s cases like these where sound reason is ignored for retribution that allows a body of judgements to turn into a precedent that can be used on regular people.
This is a bad precedent to set, and I hope it is overturned.
AccomplishedMeow t1_jact2ya wrote
Yea. Or, you know, given the same punishment as every other person does when they can’t pay their debts. Wage garnishments. Not imprisonment
strawberries6 t1_jactih9 wrote
Good guess, considering it's an article from the Vancouver Sun.
kashmir1974 t1_jacujbl wrote
They treat drug dealing stuff differently than medical debt or a default car loan or mortgage.
AccomplishedMeow t1_jacvv1w wrote
He’s being punished for not being able to pay his court fines.
That would be like you being imprisoned for not being able to pay back your credit card bills.
Feyden t1_jacx96b wrote
cough Israel cough
soMAJESTIC t1_jacxsz6 wrote
I wonder if this would fall under tax evasion, or tax fraud… which are punishable by up to 5 and 14 years in prison in canada. It still isn’t fair to those without the money to just pay it back when they get caught.
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kashmir1974 t1_jacyrir wrote
No, court fines are imposed when you do something illegal. Not the same as not paying cc bills. Dude dealt drugs, got caught and got nailed. Would it be bad if they sicced the IRS on him to audit him and nail him for tax evasion for not paying taxes on his drug earnings? Like how they nailed Capone?
I'd say that's how you handle drug dealers. Put IRS auditors on them and see what's what.
Has_hog t1_jad2iwr wrote
Yep. I mean these guys are protected at the highest levels by banks and intel agencies. I’m not convinced this doofus, who called himself “Kash”, had any real cash or was leading shit.
75 grand in fines is a pretty laughable attempt by law enforcement who by and large seems to have “failed” to find the actual boss.
chubbyakajc t1_jad76tn wrote
Its why i know censorship will never work the way people think.
GladKill767 t1_jadaif8 wrote
Leave the small business owners alone already!
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Proper-Willingness54 t1_jadhda6 wrote
Still big government getting in the way of small business
BubbaTee t1_jadhs3l wrote
Damn wasteful drug dealers, spending all their money on avocado meth instead of saving it!
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Arrowtica t1_jado6h2 wrote
So dudes go to prison for having a little bit of weed but a hard drug dealer only goes to prison because he couldn't pay? Wtf?
ChaotiNeutrSamaritan t1_jadozx4 wrote
That's even worse!
Bringbackdexter t1_jadpap6 wrote
Or you just keep doing it to the undesirables because technically you’re still enforcing the law.
Aang_420 t1_jadpggs wrote
Are we really just going to ignore this under cover cop with a Cocaine problem?
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Arrowtica t1_jae4dqv wrote
So if he paid his fines then he would not have to go to prison? Yet guys who have a bit of weed on them don't have a choice and go straight to jail or prison? Wtf....
kashmir1974 t1_jae5ey2 wrote
Does a bit of weed land you in jail in canada?
Sir-Farts- t1_jae6bgb wrote
There i edited my comment to what I was actually trying to say.
MaybeADumbass t1_jae7gbh wrote
No, I mean the comment you replied to was a sarcastic joke. The poster does not actually mean what they are saying.
Dapper-Parsnip8592 t1_jae8g47 wrote
I'm curious, can you expand on that? How do people think it will work, and how do you think that differs from reality?
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Zenedarr t1_jaer1ka wrote
you are not a dumbass, as your username may suggest, you are very smart! good human. <3 .
BytesBite t1_jaerwwg wrote
Doesn't seem like many here are reading the article, so I'll try to summarize as someone who really doesn't know much about the law.
Basically, guy dealt cocaine and got caught. His sentencing was a few years and about 75000 dollars returned, which is different from fined (which is what the officer bought it for). Problem is that he only really pocketed about 6 to 7k from that, and as such doesn't have the money to forfeit, so instead of the forfeiture, they're fining him.
In lieu of him paying the fine, they're threatening more prison time. His case is that the additional time due to the fine is unconstitutional, because a fine in lieu of forfeiture is unconstitutional.
MaybeADumbass t1_jaev5s7 wrote
Well thank you!
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Cindexxx t1_jaf0u5v wrote
Dude you always need the /s. People will say that seriously now. They're that dumb, you don't want to get lumped in with them do you?
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