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[deleted] t1_jabevey wrote

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Decent_Jello_8001 t1_jabzc1y wrote

So debtors jail and they are going to get away with it because his a drug dealer and no one really cares enough to make a fuss about it.

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chubbyakajc t1_jac7lqs wrote

Yup, you do it enough to the "undesirables" then you can do it to the general public with precedent

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fkivxvii t1_jacglcd wrote

That’s what I tell people all the time.

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chubbyakajc t1_jad76tn wrote

Its why i know censorship will never work the way people think.

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Dapper-Parsnip8592 t1_jae8g47 wrote

I'm curious, can you expand on that? How do people think it will work, and how do you think that differs from reality?

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Bringbackdexter t1_jadpap6 wrote

Or you just keep doing it to the undesirables because technically you’re still enforcing the law.

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soMAJESTIC t1_jacxsz6 wrote

I wonder if this would fall under tax evasion, or tax fraud… which are punishable by up to 5 and 14 years in prison in canada. It still isn’t fair to those without the money to just pay it back when they get caught.

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kashmir1974 t1_jaci3ri wrote

Dude should have saved some of his drug money.

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AccomplishedMeow t1_jact2ya wrote

Yea. Or, you know, given the same punishment as every other person does when they can’t pay their debts. Wage garnishments. Not imprisonment

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kashmir1974 t1_jacujbl wrote

They treat drug dealing stuff differently than medical debt or a default car loan or mortgage.

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AccomplishedMeow t1_jacvv1w wrote

He’s being punished for not being able to pay his court fines.

That would be like you being imprisoned for not being able to pay back your credit card bills.

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kashmir1974 t1_jacyrir wrote

No, court fines are imposed when you do something illegal. Not the same as not paying cc bills. Dude dealt drugs, got caught and got nailed. Would it be bad if they sicced the IRS on him to audit him and nail him for tax evasion for not paying taxes on his drug earnings? Like how they nailed Capone?

I'd say that's how you handle drug dealers. Put IRS auditors on them and see what's what.

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Arrowtica t1_jae4dqv wrote

So if he paid his fines then he would not have to go to prison? Yet guys who have a bit of weed on them don't have a choice and go straight to jail or prison? Wtf....

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BubbaTee t1_jadhs3l wrote

Damn wasteful drug dealers, spending all their money on avocado meth instead of saving it!

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JediMimeTrix t1_jabexpz wrote

I mean his reason was pretty sound tbh lol.

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X_Glamdring_X t1_jacrcuc wrote

Exactly. It’s cases like these where sound reason is ignored for retribution that allows a body of judgements to turn into a precedent that can be used on regular people.

This is a bad precedent to set, and I hope it is overturned.

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Aang_420 t1_jadpggs wrote

Are we really just going to ignore this under cover cop with a Cocaine problem?

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BytesBite t1_jaerwwg wrote

Doesn't seem like many here are reading the article, so I'll try to summarize as someone who really doesn't know much about the law.

Basically, guy dealt cocaine and got caught. His sentencing was a few years and about 75000 dollars returned, which is different from fined (which is what the officer bought it for). Problem is that he only really pocketed about 6 to 7k from that, and as such doesn't have the money to forfeit, so instead of the forfeiture, they're fining him.

In lieu of him paying the fine, they're threatening more prison time. His case is that the additional time due to the fine is unconstitutional, because a fine in lieu of forfeiture is unconstitutional.

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robbedigital t1_jacmen0 wrote

It is.

Government Agencies deal more drugs than anyone

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Has_hog t1_jad2iwr wrote

Yep. I mean these guys are protected at the highest levels by banks and intel agencies. I’m not convinced this doofus, who called himself “Kash”, had any real cash or was leading shit.

75 grand in fines is a pretty laughable attempt by law enforcement who by and large seems to have “failed” to find the actual boss.

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Zenedarr t1_jabpb8i wrote

silly drugs. always in the headlines, but never any solution. I propose we make them MORE illegal. That will make people think twice about drugs if they are double illegal and then they will disappear from the earth and our kids will be oh so safe.

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Cindexxx t1_jaf0u5v wrote

Dude you always need the /s. People will say that seriously now. They're that dumb, you don't want to get lumped in with them do you?

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Sir-Farts- t1_jacbgqf wrote

By making them more illegal, you make the drug dealers richer. good solution.

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MaybeADumbass t1_jacfv6e wrote

I'm pretty sure that was sarcastic...

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Sir-Farts- t1_jae6bgb wrote

There i edited my comment to what I was actually trying to say.

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MaybeADumbass t1_jae7gbh wrote

No, I mean the comment you replied to was a sarcastic joke. The poster does not actually mean what they are saying.

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Zenedarr t1_jaer1ka wrote

you are not a dumbass, as your username may suggest, you are very smart! good human. <3 .

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GladKill767 t1_jadaif8 wrote

Leave the small business owners alone already!

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HYPR_LYTE t1_jacpxao wrote

In Vancouver, probably.

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strawberries6 t1_jactih9 wrote

Good guess, considering it's an article from the Vancouver Sun.

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Capt_morgan72 t1_jabl0z4 wrote

Wait. So the fine is the exact amount the cop spent on the cocaine? Sounds beyond reasonable to me. Means he can keep all the money he made on other sales.

Also seems like to me buying cocaine should be just as illegal as selling it. Regardless of intent or badge.

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TheTabman t1_jabzism wrote

>He only made about $6,000 to $7,000 from the sales, he said, with the rest going to his cocaine supplier.

Reading the actual article is rather helpful to understand the details.

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Medcait t1_jabfzcg wrote

Pretty sure the constitution doesn’t talk about cocaine.

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CAESTULA t1_jacmwht wrote

Does the Canadian constitution say anything about debtors prisons though?

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