Gods_chosen_dildo t1_ja0clc3 wrote
Reply to comment by OppositeEagle in Protest In Berlin Over Arming Ukraine Against Russia Draws Thousands by Neo2199
That is generally how alliances work when one is invaded yes.
OppositeEagle t1_ja0ftym wrote
Ukraine isn't a strong allie, just a convenient one; enemy if our enemy. So hey, let's keep that machine moving until nukes start flying, right! Right?
Gods_chosen_dildo t1_ja0jj4s wrote
Wtf are you on about, nukes?
You still haven’t answered why taking Putin’s side makes you anti war. Most likely either your dear leaders in the Republican Party told you or the Stalin voice in your head did.
OppositeEagle t1_ja0m037 wrote
You are assuming way too much about me personally. Being anti-war doesn't doesn't make me pro or anti, this side or that; I'm not for whatever is going on between Russia, Ukraine, NATO. But that's me.
Right, NATO, I forgot! Why aren't they just rising up and kicking Putin's teeth in? Maybe it has to do with nukes? You know, the things that level entire cities and contaminates countries? Putin has them...incase you didn't know.
Vanhandle t1_ja0mxcy wrote
You are essentially just arguing that you wish war didn't exist. I also wish guns didn't exist, but they do, and so does war. Not every neighboring county can be convinced to put down their weapons and please don't invade us. War is necessary if the other side refuses to cease their incursions. We would be morally bankrupt if we allowed for allied countries to just get crushed by authoritarians.
OppositeEagle t1_ja0rfyt wrote
Crushed? They're putting up a good fight and holding onto a great deal of their country. Eventually they will join NATO and if Putin try's this shit again it will be WW3. Or the US can escalate it.
collingiles t1_ja1mtvj wrote
>Crushed? They're putting up a good fight and holding onto a great deal of their country.
Exactly BECAUSE we are sending them aid.
Delamoor t1_ja38wc3 wrote
Which OP wants to end, this ensuring they can't put up a good fight and instead get ethnically cleansed and incorporated into Putin's Russia by force.
carmichael109 t1_ja2yoc3 wrote
They are putting up a good fight because the world is aiding them. You just proved everyone's point.
Gods_chosen_dildo t1_ja0ndsn wrote
Yes nukes are a reason that NATO hasn’t committed ground troops to Ukraine, but geopolitical realities pertaining to trade relations with China, alliances with India, and Turkey being a NATO member state are way more reason that ground troops haven’t been committed.
Nukes are a non factor as far as us supplying materiel and financial support for Ukraine, Putin is not dumb enough to use them for any other reason then a Hail Mary if the very survival of Russia is threatened.
Delamoor t1_ja38pp4 wrote
So because they aren't strong enough to survive on their own, Putin (and the modern Russian Empire) has the right to invaded them and threaten the world with nukes?
Oh yeah, you seem totally pro-peace. Not defending an aggressor whatsoever. /S
OppositeEagle t1_ja3adkl wrote
Were acting like Ukraine boarders are our boarders. If that's the case, why aren't we taking this more seriously and mobilizing our own trillion dollar military? That's why we spend so much right? If Russia is such a threat let's treat it like one.
Delamoor t1_ja3bmp3 wrote
So... now you want to invade Russia?
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