>I understand their stupid ass positions and the faulty logic used to get there.

I don't believe that.

>I don’t believe or support it and will not excuse murder, robbery or any other violent crime for any reason.

You're not being asked to. Again, I don't think you actually understand what the other side is arguing.

>They deserve prison and should be removed from society.

Many people on the other side of the issue would agree with you. However, is prison going to be a punitive experience? Or is it going to be rehabilitative so that when they leave, they have the skills to rejoin society? And as a society, do we have the systems to reintegrate them?

Currently, most of our prisons don't prepare prisoners for success. Moreover, our social safety nets, housing laws, and hiring practices basically ensure these people have no real chance at starting a new life. Our current system basically guarantees recidivism and an endless cycle of crime.

I don't know about you, but that does not seem like a good or fair system to me. And if you don't care about what is good or fairness, then at least you can probably agree it's a big waste of taxpayer money.