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W4ffle3 t1_j8539lb wrote

>I understand their stupid ass positions and the faulty logic used to get there.

I don't believe that.

>I don’t believe or support it and will not excuse murder, robbery or any other violent crime for any reason.

You're not being asked to. Again, I don't think you actually understand what the other side is arguing.

>They deserve prison and should be removed from society.

Many people on the other side of the issue would agree with you. However, is prison going to be a punitive experience? Or is it going to be rehabilitative so that when they leave, they have the skills to rejoin society? And as a society, do we have the systems to reintegrate them?

Currently, most of our prisons don't prepare prisoners for success. Moreover, our social safety nets, housing laws, and hiring practices basically ensure these people have no real chance at starting a new life. Our current system basically guarantees recidivism and an endless cycle of crime.

I don't know about you, but that does not seem like a good or fair system to me. And if you don't care about what is good or fairness, then at least you can probably agree it's a big waste of taxpayer money.

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mimo2 t1_j859bh5 wrote

I am a bay area local

SFDA Chesa Boudin ran on a campaign of restorative justice

There are segments of the progressive wing that do actually believe that criminals are the victims

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W4ffle3 t1_j85em19 wrote

There are segments of the right wing who believe JFK Jr is going to show up any day now and declare Trump president.

Point being, there are crazy segments in every political movement whose beliefs are out of step with the majority.

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Mumof3gbb t1_j84zcx1 wrote

It’s not “woke fucks” is pro police “back the blue no matter who” fucks who think cops don’t deserve to be punished and should be able to do whatever they want.

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W4ffle3 t1_j8501er wrote

For those who are actually wondering what "restorative justice" means, don't take the word of an anonymous person on the internet.

There are plenty of experts and credible resources which explain what it actually is.

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