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Misguidedvision t1_j999lhz wrote
Reply to comment by NewMud8629 in Pro-Iran regime prof. in US covered up mass murder - human rights report by Shaul_Ishtov
Who's blaming the US? You even say the US is hardly mentioned in the article, you're chasing windmills mate
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NewMud8629 t1_j999toy wrote
US Covered up seems pretty blaming to me.
whatsinthesocks t1_j99a54v wrote
The professor is in the US. The professor had a hand in it. Not the US.
CaseyTS t1_j99glua wrote
"Iran regime prof in US" is the Object and "covered up" is the Verb. You've got nothing to worry about: there was absolutely no implication at all that the US government is involved at all.
Google "prepositional phrase"
NewMud8629 t1_j99gvl4 wrote
I know how idiots think cus I argue with them alot. They’re gonna look at the period after prof. Assume it’s the end of the sentence and capitalize on the US being mentioned.
Dabbling_in_Pacifism t1_j99yzyo wrote
A lot*
Misguidedvision t1_j99aa4c wrote
Where does it say that? In the entire article that is never mentioned.
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Misguidedvision t1_j99azqx wrote
Lol I'm the idiot
"Pro-Iran regime prof. in US covered up mass murder - human rights report"
Pro Iran regime..
Prof.
IN the US
Cover up mass murder.
Where in the fuck is the claim that the US government is in any way involved? A professor, employed at a college in the US had in the past covered up mass murder. It's clearly about the efforts to have this professor dismissed. You are delusional
NewMud8629 t1_j99b7ei wrote
US covered up. One can infer that he’s trying to blame the US. To avoid this he should name the university not the country.
Misguidedvision t1_j99btny wrote
So you just can't read? The subject matter of the sentence is the professor, the professor in the United States. Naming the college is useless to anyone not familiar with where the college is located, you also seem to want to place blame on the college, as your alternate title blames the university for the cover up. The current title states that the professor covered up a mass murder, idk why the word "IN" just seems to slip by you
NewMud8629 t1_j99c4jo wrote
They didn’t name the college at all. Which means the pull here is the US. The college won’t take the fall for it. Everybody will stop when they see “US”. Like I did. The title name means everything
urgentmatters t1_j99r4ih wrote
You’re the only one seeing this…you might be illiterate
NewMud8629 t1_j99uoc7 wrote
If I were illiterate I wouldn’t be able to type and read. You’re not paying attention. The fact that the institution involved isn’t named in the title is what upsets me. The emphasis is put on the US. Not the school. It’s called manipulative journalism. It’s when journalists or news article writers leave subtle messages that favor their political interests. By mentioning the US, the writer is conveying a subtle message that the US condoned or was involved with the coverup, as well. So someone who scrolls by this post and doesn’t stop to read the article, will summarize it as a professor in the US covering up a mass murder without any context. The US is the key factor in the title. It also suggests the US favors the regime in its own right.
Teantis t1_j99x035 wrote
Christ man, the US is not the key factor in the title except for people who read extremely poorly. Anyone with basic reading comprehension can tell the subject of the headline is the professor. As a lot of people are telling you.
NewMud8629 t1_j9ale0g wrote
That’s the issue. Most people on reddit lack basic reading skills. The US is the noun people will notice and Cover up/genocide is the verb. They won’t care about the professor. They’ll see the US in the topic and automatically assume the US is responsible. Would you like to know how I am aware of this? I’ve already heard every stupid conspiracy theory most morons believe. The proof they provide is articles like these where the US is even slightly mentioned
TheRabbitRaft t1_j9c6g6z wrote
I think its fucking hilarious that you misread something so bad but can't admit that you made a mistake you instead you double down for hours.
Let's not even mention that your supposed gripe is how poorly worded the headline is, and yet your comments are so poorly worded that no one knew wtf you were talking about until like 6 comments deep. Peak irony tbh.
NewMud8629 t1_j9cbf1b wrote
I didn’t misread it. I drew parallels between this and other discussions I’ve had where the US gets blamed for stuff it didn’t do. I already explained this multiple times.
TheRabbitRaft t1_j9ckqfu wrote
You can keep saying that, but you're the only person who thought the headline could even be interpreted like that. Its not a problem with the headline my guy... at some point you just gotta take the L and move on. If anything you're single-handedly drawing attention to a misinterpretation you claim you want to avoid. When no one else makes that same parallel but you decide to post it you introduce that idea others, creating a problem where none existed.
Edit: you also opened your first comment by saying "this is misinformation". That doesn't really "draw parallels" so much as it flat out accused the article/headline of being false. No where in that first comment do you mention other peoples interpretations or other arguments you've had, you only declare this particular article to be misinformation, illustrating once again that you were the only one confused.
Tl:dr I don't believe your bullshit excuses for trying to save face for more than 12 hours now.
NewMud8629 t1_j9cnpow wrote
If I repost this in another reddit or even youtube people would misinterpret this stuff.
TheRabbitRaft t1_j9ct3ys wrote
- I really doubt it on a large scale. Maybe a few illiterate people could come to the same conclusion as you. 2) it is not your job to police what stupid people think in the face of facts, nothing in this headline suggests your weak "interpretation", if anyone genuinely believes that they either can't read or have already made up their mind based on other crazy factors. 3) if you're so worried about what might happen if you post this somewhere else the solution is simple; don't go repost it. It's obviously causing you personally a load of mental stress, for your own mental health you might wanna take a step back for a bit. No sane person argues this hard for this long because "someone else might misinterpret common English prepositional phrases". But keep going, you might eventually convince some of the people you're worried about that the US was involved, seems to be your goal. Why do you insist on spreading misinformation? You're the only person I've seen talk about potentially reposting it elsewhere, if you think it's blatant misinformation why would you consider spreading it? Either you're a terrible liar, youre actually unable to read properly, or you're trolling. I hope you find the right therapist to help you on your journey, dude, have a blessed day.
NewMud8629 t1_j9ctsep wrote
If you doubt it on a large scale it just shows your inexperience in these types of debates. Anyway I’m starting to think you’re a rabbit hole. I don’t care what might happen I care about us being affiliated with Middle Eastern politics.
TheRabbitRaft t1_j9ctzrl wrote
I hope you have a blessed day.
NewMud8629 t1_j9cunr0 wrote
You as well.
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lucianbelew t1_j99ys2b wrote
Does anyone else remember when it was hard for people this aggressively stupid to get on the internet?
NewMud8629 t1_j9alqhw wrote
I’m experienced in dealing with people. If having experience is now considered stupidity then sure. Just because I see something that you don’t go ahead. Lol
lucianbelew t1_j9ar7vt wrote
Well, whether it's stupidity or something else, everyone except you can plainly see the the noun in the headline is {prof. in US} and for some reason you cannot. If it isn't stupidity on your part, what is it?
NewMud8629 t1_j9b0m8a wrote
you said “the” twice in a row. It’s not stupidity on my part it’s experience. I’m a debater. I have argued with hundreds of people on different mediums such as discord, youtube (I’ve made over a thousand comments), amino, and reddit. I know how stupid the average person is and they usually site articles like this when condemning the US for things it’s not even involved in.
lucianbelew t1_j9b17zp wrote
r/iamverysmart is over there.
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