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onecrazyguy1 t1_j9ksm4f wrote

Reply to comment by Risley in Israeli West Bank raid kills 10 Palestinians and hurts more than 100 others. by CrackHeadRodeo

They want peace and nothing to do with the Palestinians. The people who were killed were part of terrorist groups if you read the article. The question is what do the Palestinians want? They reject all peace, they stopped supporting the only political party of theirs that supported peace in favor of Hamas who specifically does not support peace and wants terrorism. Israel is moving further to the right, which will complicate peace, however at points Israel has offered entirety of WB, if Palestinians stopped terrorist attacks and rocket attacks, there would be peace tomorrow.

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MC_chrome t1_j9lghim wrote

This would have never been an issue to begin with if the British and Americans had included Palestinians at the negotiating table from the beginning, and had established a dual state/party solution as well.

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onecrazyguy1 t1_j9lhymp wrote

I'm not sure what table you are talking about? Beginning meaning when? If you are talking about the creation of Israel, America had nothing to do with that, the British effectively left, there was a proposal that Israel said yes to and Palestinians said no to, the Palestinians and Arabs attacked the Jews and then the Jews won. They have always been included, I am not sure what you are saying?

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MC_chrome t1_j9ljjxj wrote

>America had nothing to do with that

Per the US State Department’s own website, this is objectively not true

Basically, Britain was in favor of supporting Arabs in Palestine because it suited their interests better, while America was more in favor of displaced Jews from World War II having a place to live.

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onecrazyguy1 t1_j9llcye wrote

It's actually objectively true. All the US did was recognize them as a country, negotiation would have done nothing. Thee had been plenty of negotiation for many years since way before the Holocaust or WWII. The Arabs and Jews were effectively in civil war, every compromise was rejected no matter what, which is exactly what the Arabs said they would do. There was never going to be a one state solution, neither side was willing to do that, decades of mandate histoiry show why that is a ridiculous idea. Israel looks the way it does because the Palestinians attacked and lost, no negotiations would change that, even if the UN did not vote, there would still be a state of Israel, it had been brewing for decades. All the British did was punt the League of Nations question from WWI to the UN.

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