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JennJayBee t1_j9ns39e wrote

None of the above.

>The agency said it is working with law enforcement at every level to investigate the cases. But some news reports, including in Minnesota and Louisiana, have cited local authorities who said the calls may be originating in Africa or, specifically, Ethiopia. The FBI would not comment on this detail.

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rosatter t1_j9nu689 wrote

Okay do VPNs and number spoofing not exist?

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JennJayBee t1_j9oxi6g wrote

They have in fact been using Internet-based phone numbers and a VPN. The federal government has been tracking this for months now and working with multiple state agencies. There are also other factors.

I heavily recommend reading the full article. It's quite lengthy, but it's well worth the read.

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freebirth t1_j9nvkpf wrote

fun fact.. intelligence agency's don't give a shit about vpns. and know how to account for them.

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rosatter t1_j9ny3mh wrote

Yes but it's the local authorities that are saying the calls are coming from Ethiopia. Have you seen local police?

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JennJayBee t1_j9oxs6w wrote

This isn't merely local police for one jurisdiction saying this. These are multiple state agencies which have been working with the FBI.

The article I linked isn't behind a paywall, and it's definitely worth the read. They go into more detail as to how they came to that conclusion.

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rosatter t1_j9oyg48 wrote

Right but the quote from the article says local agencies stated that the calls were coming from Ethiopia or wherever but the FBI declined comment.

Edit: I'm slow today, still recovering from surgery and my reading comprehension is in the toilet. Reading the NPR article you shared now

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JennJayBee t1_j9pm2bb wrote

It happens, and I'm being a little lazy. I didn't want to have to copy and paste the five or so scattered paragraphs that explained more of the detail.

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freebirth t1_j9nw4uc wrote

ok and? state actors don't stay in the state that employs them... they also aren't always from that country. it could have originated anywhere and still been almost any one of those ... a little less so north Korea given their proclivities and how locked down they are but they definitely have reach into the south pacific.

but since its Ethiopia, that pretty much narrows it down to China. with the number of ties and previous "incidents" that have started there and in other north african countries with heavy Chinese investment. it would be very surprising if it wasn't them.

the thing is. this is going outside of normal behavior for this kind of thing. you expect regular espionage attempts, probing and tit for tat cyber attacks, a bit of friendly sabotage of minor systems. but generally safety infrastructure is a no go on both sides. one of those "we wont if you wont" unspoken deals in that world. though china has always enjoyed pushing their limits.

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anally_ExpressUrself t1_j9o3is1 wrote

could be balloon retaliation.

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freebirth t1_j9rjg2n wrote

nah. the baloon thing is perfectly normal. survailance flights happpen literally every day. we do them they do them. every nation in the world does them. the only wierd thing about the baloon is that when a civilian finally spotted it (we had been tracking it since it was over the ocean) and for some reason a news agency reported on it... and then the internet memed it into a whole thing..the only reason there was a public responce was because the public became aware of it ams became concerned (over nothing)

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