Calavant t1_j8pkkj4 wrote on February 16, 2023 at 12:58 AM

Reply to comment by lazys_world in Lamar Johnson freed 28 years after wrongful murder conviction by CommanderMcBragg

White male property owners who were protestant and not Irish or any of a host of other ethnicities that were arbitrarily decreed not white enough somehow.

It was better than nothing in practice and genuinely good in principle. But we need to remember that it was made in a cruel time as a compromise between flawed people. They needed something to prop up the fragile Republic today rather than something perfect tomorrow.

Still, the ideal of it... buried under all that compromise... is worth recognizing.

Coffinspired t1_j8qo3e0 wrote on February 16, 2023 at 6:42 AM

I don't know about all that. This is sounding quite a bit white-washy and idealistic.

> It was better than nothing in practice and genuinely good in principle.

I don't think the people who were considered property instead of humans would agree.

> But we need to remember that it was made in a cruel time as a compromise between flawed people.

We don't live in a fair and just time full of perfect people today either, what is the specific distinction you're trying to make between then and now regarding people or society? Slavery? Slavery is still legal in much of the US...today.

Many of the Founding Fathers themselves were racist slave-owning pieces of shit. Among other horrendous things.

They shouldn't be put on a pedestal or lionized. Ditto for the Constitution.