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jetty_junkie t1_j6mxjev wrote
They will continue to blame turbines. I’m surprised they aren’t blaming the Covid vaccine for these TBH
Where was this whale?
EmbracedByLeaves t1_j6n4vlx wrote
To be fair, they aren't blaming the turbines, they are blaming the underwater surveying for the turbines.
Essentially, the Orsted said, hey we can't be causing this, the signal source isn't as powerful as last time. NOAA said we believe you.
The lack of oversight or research into the topic is what a lot of people are concerned about. When has a large company or the government for that matter had any regard for the environment when billions of dollars are on the line.
visions-xxl t1_j6n6281 wrote
its the wind farms.
timberswiss3 t1_j6nd7bf wrote
This site is aids
Mr_Matt_K t1_j6ndqdy wrote
[citation needed]
_R3N3G4D3 t1_j6nlj73 wrote
Russian subs
SyndicalistCPA t1_j6nlul8 wrote
Bro, literally half the whale were hit by vessels. The source is a Nimby group
EmbracedByLeaves t1_j6nte31 wrote
Why are there a ton of boat strikes only while this surveying is going on?
Yes, whales get hit by boats, but never at this rate.
The sonar and underwater noise does cause issues with the whales. When they were doing underwater geologic blasting a few years ago, the whales were acting strange then too.
All I'm saying is it should be studied/observed.
SyndicalistCPA t1_j6nvdfl wrote
You do know whales have been shifting the migration patterns due to overfishing and climate change right?
barristadept t1_j6o18x5 wrote
There were many whales in the area through summer because of the amount of food in the NY Bight region. Nothing to do with climate change or over fishing. Those whales should have moved south by now. Why are they getting struck now and not when they were all over the place months ago? I think all people are asking for is to investigate the deaths (yes some were caused by boat strikes). If the ocean was being drilled for oil and these same whale deaths were occurring the Dems would put a stop to it. What a clown world.
SyndicalistCPA t1_j6o3sj1 wrote
Must look like a clown world to a clown.
Half of the whales were dead by being struck. Other half was likely starvation.
hopopo t1_j6o3v3b wrote
Is it still there?
Rak_S11 t1_j6o556x wrote
Seriously!!
whaler76 t1_j6oj04y wrote
Eh, one just washed up on long island, it is an unusual amount and deserves further investigation
barristadept t1_j6oqbhv wrote
It should be easy to make that determination then. Halt the whale killing sonar and determine the cause before proceeding. It's hilarious that democrats would be bitching for the same thing if we were drilling for oil. But it's wind so a few whales deaths is worth it. Clown world.
SyndicalistCPA t1_j6ot3dr wrote
Democrats this, democrats that. Unhinged behavior. Wind Farm work hasn't
>>“We can say that these active acoustic systems that are used during these surveys are commonly used around the world,” said Ben Laws, deputy chief for NOAA’s Permits and Conservation Division, and NOAA Fisheries Office of Protected Resources, during a press conference earlier this month. “There are no historical stranding events that have been associated with use of systems like these.”
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>Whale death spikes are not a new phenomenon. According to NOAA, there have been 178 unusual mortalities since 2016. Almost half of the necropsied whales were hit by vessels, while the remaining results are inconclusive. Sometimes the bodies are too decomposed to determine a cause of death, experts say.
Reidenberg said it’s possible that because water quality has improved, the fish whales eat are more abundant. That means whales are hanging around port areas with high boat traffic for longer periods, putting them at greater risk of getting hit by a ship.
Dumbass conservatives obsessed with conspiracies.
EmbracedByLeaves t1_j6otrc9 wrote
This directly contradicts your earlier claim that they died from starvation.
SyndicalistCPA t1_j6owmh6 wrote
Where did I state that as a fact?
Pherllerp t1_j6oxxhy wrote
Monmouth County nimbys are about to start caring about whales.
jarrettbrown t1_j6ozcls wrote
A few surfers that I follow over on Instagram have been linking groups that are basically blaming the turbines even though they aren't up yet. They're blaming the stuff leading up to the construction. I guess that it's plausible, but the thing that doesn't make sense here, at least to me, is that NOAA and the company that is doing the mapping both agree that isn't in the range of the whales, but who knows at this point. Some of these whales could be in the same range as the sonar used by the boat, so it might be the cause or it might be something else.
barristadept t1_j6ozyms wrote
Explain why this is happening now? There were far more whales around the NY Bight all summer long with even higher boat traffic. Why now? People choose to bury their heads in the sand only when it suits their cause.
barristadept t1_j6p0i2b wrote
Clown World!
EmbracedByLeaves t1_j6p0pf0 wrote
This is the whole point. Nobody can be sure until they actually take a look at it. But they are refusing to take a look at it.
Then there is the issue of the damage to the ecosystems in the bay with the cable being laid.
barristadept t1_j6p1b4g wrote
Phil is going to appease the knuckle dragging conservatives and call George Costanza. Folks, i promise we'll get to the bottom of this!
jarrettbrown t1_j6p2qri wrote
I mean, the Block Island Wind Farm had the same issues I'm sure, but they got it done. But that's a whole other argument.
EmbracedByLeaves t1_j6pdll5 wrote
It has it's own host of issues. After 4 years, 4 out of 5 turbines were inoperable and the ultra high voltage DC line to the shore was uncovered because they never buried it deep enough.
StrategicBlenderBall t1_j6mvetj wrote
Are we still blaming the wind turbines?