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skankingmike t1_j67lkzd wrote

It’s a state by state issue. NJ has addressed tons of shit but at the end of the day are you signing up to be a cop? It’s a certain type that does and until all these people protesting it sign up why would it change more?

Protesting isn’t going to fix it. Vote and run.

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low_effort_shit-post t1_j681h5e wrote

I tried to be a cop but couldn't because I'm colorblind (I didn't know). Loads of my friends joined and made friends inside. The mentality is collective, you adopt the personality if you didn't buy into it you'll conform or get pushed out.

Change from inside is almost impossible

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Artystrong1 t1_j68kdz1 wrote

My one buddy is a dead head and plays in a band in ASBURY. He's a port authority cop. He's the most peaceful person I've ever met and he does not have a complex. I should add that he just hates smelly crack heads at pen station .

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StrategicBlenderBall t1_j6hnk21 wrote

Port Authority cops are legit, respectful and professional. All cops should be like Port Authority cops.

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Superfool t1_j68ac2b wrote

Just a heads up - looks like you double posted this comment

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shower_ghost t1_j68hrns wrote

But policing has been systematically designed over decades to appeal to a certain kind of person. Almost every officer who does try to change anything from within or even hold other police accountable is chased from the job. It would take a massive influx of like-minded people to join the police AND the police unions (who have insane power and influence.) Even if a bunch of reformers tried to join, how many of those representing the status quo would do the same? How many current lifers would just stay? When the police realize they’re being “infiltrated” by reformers, do you think they’ll just let it happen? I’m not saying protesting will fix things either but reducing it to “if you want change, just join a broken system” doesn’t seem like a viable option either. Honestly, I don’t even know what would fix policing at this point. When rot spoils the bunch, you don’t add good apples in hopes of removing the spoil; you have to start the barrel from scratch.

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skankingmike t1_j694sgr wrote

Cops are here to enforce laws and laws are made for the wealthy. It’s not going to change it’ll never change. Live your life as best you can. Most black Americans never get arrested never deal with cops outside of speeding tickets or calling them for their own need. Same goes for most Americans. These protests will only end in rioting.. which is exactly what happened in many of them last night…

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Sugartaste81 t1_j69yh2l wrote

Sounds about white.

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skankingmike t1_j6bqq8m wrote

Yeah cops are only white all over. There’s never been enforcement people in any other country.

I can’t imagine why our youth in America are worse off than previous generations…. Fuck me

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SlyMcFly67 t1_j69g56w wrote

I agree with your first sentence but the rest is pure rubbish. Not all protests are riots. And if protests didnt work, we wouldnt have half the liberties in this country we do now. Systemic change can be slow but if you dont try, nothing changes.

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ilovemytvalot t1_j68g54c wrote

Protesting doesn't change things overnight, but it does allow communities to get together to focus on what needs to change, brings awareness to issues that would usually be ignored, and is a strong reminder that the power lies in its people.

What we need to do is understand the root issues behind these racist acts and violent displays of force by the police. That's where demonstrations, protests, and rallies can help. They can provide communities with forums to educate them on what's happening and motivate them to fight back. Let's not underestimate the power of protests because they don't give us results instantly. 

Also, we shouldn't have to join the police force for cops to be decent human beings. The police force isn't going to completely change solely because of new hires. It is layers and layers of problematic behaviors, inappropriate policies and training, and corrupted leadership that have created one of the most dangerous and abusive workforces that the country unfortunately has to rely on. 

Definitely agree on the vote and run. Everyone should vote for. Every. Single. Election.

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skankingmike t1_j6950aq wrote

Most of the protesting is outside of the community in many major cities. The local ones are fine. What are you protesting in NJ?

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Longtermthrowaway5 t1_j694j1n wrote

Only one person can win, what does everyone else who is dissatisfied do at that point?

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skankingmike t1_j694vxd wrote

That’s democracy. There’s not a better system yet.

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Longtermthrowaway5 t1_j695ezw wrote

Lol that's not even how you get hired as a cop. They aren't voted on. But sure there's better systems. Like democracies where protest is allowed. You are saying we are better off not allowing protests in our democracy?

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skankingmike t1_j69a47h wrote

You said only one person can win? Wtf are you talking about.

Where did I say not to protest I said what good is protesting another cities in another state with different laws and rules going to do? NJ requires cops to have 4 year education and has other things most other states don’t have.

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Longtermthrowaway5 t1_j69dmvv wrote

That's not what you said,. But ok

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skankingmike t1_j69dyol wrote

Vote and run… aka politics.. and you can run.. and you can vote and change how shit is handled. But protesting just makes good headlines for the left and right to push their narratives and then not much happens unless you got the right people in..

NJ saw the need to change going back to Christi Todd Whitman. That’s when police changes started. It’s also why our issues are much more muted against the national stage.

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