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No_Investigator6777 t1_is54t58 wrote
Does anyone have high expectations for point pleasant police?
[deleted] t1_is54ujs wrote
Probably right wing bootlickers
structuremonkey t1_is56fu3 wrote
They probably agree with the attempted assault. so why would they charge? Also republican controlled town, and county...charging this isn't in their interest....smh
brook_lyn_lopez t1_is57cwr wrote
How many conversations at the Point Pleasant police department revolve around moving to Florida?
midnitte t1_is5851g wrote
> “I can tell by the fact that you’re still talking when nobody wants you to that you voted for Trump,” the comedian replied to big cheers from the audience.
.... > “As soon as I picked up the beer and felt liquid still in it,” Elias told Newsweek today, “I knew to chug it. It felt like the only way to recover. Also suddenly I really needed a drink, so it really worked out.”
Brilliant.
coma24 t1_is59ots wrote
It appears the reason for charges not being filed are because she wouldn't sign the complaint, because, "'In order to do that,' she told Newsweek, 'I would have to return to Point Pleasant Beach, and I'm not doing that unless someone pays me to.'"
So, as easy as it is to trash the system, the simple fact is that she didn't want to move forward with the charges.
Interestingly, the guy's friends apparently gave the assailant's name to the club owner, who then passed it on to the police when the police spoke with the owner.
It's all in the article.
Practical_Argument50 t1_is5arbg wrote
You meant to say “Snowflakes”
d0mini0nicco t1_is5eqln wrote
Maybe I'm petty....but you bet your ass I'd have gone back to do that.
bigtime_porgrammer t1_is5f9jr wrote
The part about not returning to Point Pleasant sounded like a joke to me. The article also said:
>On Tuesday, Point Pleasant Beach police said they also had been in touch with Elias, but said she could not see who threw the beer because of the stage lights and declined to sign a complaint.
That's a mature and responsible position - she could have easily gone along with pointing the finger at the guy everyone else identified. She probably also figures it's better for her career to show that she won the fight with the hecklers herself, right there on the stage. No more justice needed from her perspective, despite many people having the understandable reaction that the guy should face actual consequences.
Also, interesting that the article said he was identified by his companions. In the video, you can hear someone off camera saying something like, "I'm never going out with you guys again".
R-code t1_is5gawq wrote
If it was a cop he would have thrown the beer first and then claimed the comedian had a knife.
LetsAllSmokin t1_is5gfb6 wrote
Same people that bitch and moan to "not bring politics into everything"
Workodactyl t1_is5gq5p wrote
This is Reddit. We don’t read the articles.
dethskwirl t1_is5hrgd wrote
It's North Carolina now. they're all afraid of the hurricanes and flooding, so they're all buying up real estate in Asheville, but they won't dare be caught admitting that climate change is a problem either.
[deleted] t1_is5i201 wrote
“Fuck your feelings” “Snowflakes”
StriderTB t1_is5i55q wrote
It annoys me that being charged is predicated on her signing a complaint. The act happened regardless.
Answer_Atac t1_is5iep5 wrote
or someone with a PBA card
sutisuc t1_is5iqlx wrote
If you want to charge someone with a crime you have to be able to have someone who will attest to actually observing the crime. I don’t know what other alternative you’d like?
No_Investigator6777 t1_is5iryp wrote
Anyone know if she's actually funny? She's about to get alot of airtime
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bigtime_porgrammer t1_is5jio7 wrote
That's one path to him getting charged. Apparently the club is pressing charges.
lostatwork314 t1_is5kit5 wrote
If it's a disorderly person's offense the comedian would be the one who needs to sign the complaint, not the police.
Police only sign them if the act is done within their presence, with very few exceptions to that, such as domestic violence.
[deleted] t1_is5kql6 wrote
READ IT?! I WROTE IT!
[deleted] t1_is5kuzc wrote
Interesting! Thank you for informing me. I still stand by my statement though.
StriderTB t1_is5kvg0 wrote
There was a room full of people who can attest to it.
sutisuc t1_is5l6e0 wrote
That’s implying those people would want to and then follow through with a case involving strangers going forward. You also have to get a victim to attest to it causing them to feel harm, threatened, etc, so either way she’d have to be involved
StriderTB t1_is5lrrq wrote
It's just amazing that the party of law, order, and personal responsibility (lol) always manages to do whatever the fuck they want, consequence-free.
twothumbswayup t1_is5mn70 wrote
>It's all in the article.
im sorry this is reddit - we dont do that around here!
sutisuc t1_is5nr4h wrote
Yeah I mean no argument from me there but that’s probably also a factor in why the comedian doesn’t want to bother in the first place
SyndicalistCPA t1_is5q7jb wrote
Have to be to be a cop
bigtime_porgrammer t1_is5r8em wrote
Probably, but that's a matter of individual taste. One person's funny is another person's beer can throwing rage trigger, apparently.
roses-r-free t1_is5rei6 wrote
Pointed Hood Pleasant
sugarintheboots t1_is5whya wrote
Well, at least those trashy magas got banned.
GomezCups t1_is61req wrote
Cheap taxes, low crime, and good education systems. Terrible place to live.
sparklynailz t1_is61tob wrote
I’m so disappointed this happened in Jersey (but not shocked).
thebruns t1_is624zj wrote
I guess I can start murdering people left and right because if theyre dead they cant sign a complaint
sutisuc t1_is6255n wrote
And an even worse place to visit!
No_Investigator6777 t1_is62cs4 wrote
It's very Florida
sparklynailz t1_is637gl wrote
LOL tbh I had thought that too on my first watch over on Twitter, not realizing I know where Uncle Vinnie’s is. Also the audience members accent went completely over my head upon first watch.
ETA - I know a lot of trumpy’s fleeing from NJ to FL, so checks out.
KingofNJ22 t1_is63oee wrote
Damn when I saw that video I assumed it was Oklahoma or something.
coma24 t1_is6aqjy wrote
oh c'mon. Obviously, the DA can choose to press charges, too. However, in minor cases like this, if the person doesn't want to move ahead, they don't.
patsully98 t1_is6egf9 wrote
The beer was thrown by the woman's husband, "who then valiantly fled the scene." 😆
thebruns t1_is6fqg8 wrote
Sounds like theyre too lazy to do their job.
coma24 t1_is6gwe9 wrote
Or, there's a process that's followed and if the victim doesn't want to press charges (ie, wouldn't want to file a police report, or show up in court), then they drop it knowing they won't be able to get a conviction without the victim's support. But sure, let's just go with "they're lazy."
thebruns t1_is6h4hx wrote
> they won't be able to get a conviction without the victim's support
Its on camera. Youre telling me a jury would be shown the video and say thats fine?
Linenoise77 t1_is6ia5n wrote
If i don't get a beer thrown at me at Jenks, i feel like i missed out on the experience.
mattwaver t1_is6it8o wrote
what’s an article
psuedonymously t1_is6kvkz wrote
> It appears the reason for charges not being filed are because she wouldn't sign the complaint, because, "'In order to do that,' she told Newsweek, 'I would have to return to Point Pleasant Beach, and I'm not doing that unless someone pays me to.'"
It is absolutely not necessary for there to be a signed complaint by someone for charges to be pressed. Also, even if it was, there would be no need for them to physically travel to Point Pleasant to do so.
DizzyWithEternity t1_is6lyes wrote
If you listen closely to the video, you can hear someone loudly complain something like "I'm never hanging out with this fucking group again" so I'm not surprised
Edit: "yo I'm never coming out with this group of people ever again" definitely the guy that told the bar lol
CrackaZach05 t1_is6mas3 wrote
Imagine being that hurt by someone dissing your favorite...politician? WTF has this country become lol
When is someone going to start making trading cards? Jesus
coma24 t1_is6p0w0 wrote
That's irrelevant as the case would not be brought to trial without the support of the victim afaik. It's ok, we can disagree.
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FunGoolAGotz t1_is6s6wn wrote
does anyone know the name of the guy who threw the can?
daedalus_was_right t1_is6sv9a wrote
This is misleading. Individuals do not "press charges" in our justice system; the state does. This task falls to the district attorney in charge of the case. They have WIDE discretion in choosing to press charges or not, which is why we often see these instances of victims declining to pursue the issue and DAs declining to press charges as a result. But this is 100% on the DA; they absolutely have the power to move forward with charges regardless of what the victim wants.
GBAfanboy t1_is6tsod wrote
In her defense, neither do I, and I used to be in the Borough/Brick region. Point Beach sucks, anywhere else on the shore is better
InspiredBlue t1_is6ylu0 wrote
Oh wow I had seen the video but has no idea it happened here in jersey
GitEmSteveDave t1_is70jay wrote
Can't she e-sign it? Or do a zoom where she swears out the complaint? Didn't COVID teach us anything?
jpviolette t1_is714ha wrote
Wow, I don't think I've ever liked a politician so much I'd buy a trading card of them. (It doesn't look like there are stats on the back; that's probably for the best.)
GitEmSteveDave t1_is71drr wrote
Think how hard a court case is when one side of it refuses to cooperate? It's why so many domestic violence cases fall through.
One-Mall-950 t1_is71fe1 wrote
Very disappointed! These idiots meant bodily injury to the comic. These actions HAVE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
thebruns t1_is730fu wrote
I guess I can start murdering people left and right because if theyre dead they cant cooperate and it will make the job harder for the cops
ReverseMermaidMorty t1_is75eit wrote
Makes sense, won’t help the club’s reputation if performers are at risk for being assaulted on stage there without consequences.
coma24 t1_is75vj5 wrote
That's fair, and I eluded to the fact that the DA can move forward on their own in a follow-up response earlier.
However, if the police are asking if the victim wants to move forward and they say no, then unless it's an egregious circumstance, I don't see how the DA moves forward when the victim will NOT cooperate. That will be a really quick discussion with the DA, presumably, "Does she wanna press?" "Nope." "Next!"
jimmybagels t1_is76w5n wrote
She might get a spot on jimmy kimmel now, so she might
yuriydee t1_is77gzp wrote
Yep i meant to say she is now* getting famous so it might work out for her. Of course doesnt excuse throwing beer on stage
Swoah t1_is7c976 wrote
So you didn’t read the article starting they didn’t pursue charges because she didn’t want to press. Made some dumb misinformed comment. Got politely corrected, and still stood by your (wrong) statement.
8Deer-JaguarClaw t1_is7g19w wrote
That's hilarious. Asheville is like the Austin of NC. It's hippies, LGBTQ, artists, musicians, and generally left-wing stuff. They gonna hate it.
SilverKnightTM314 t1_is7gjlp wrote
By the clip shown in the article (which I recommend you watch), she seems like a very talented and likable comedian. The incidient has helped bost her popularity, and may appear on Jimmey Kimmel.
""But ultimately, he has to live with himself, and that's probably punishment enough." from her twitter account
blankblond t1_is7jqem wrote
Boo!
dethskwirl t1_is7k2ev wrote
its ok they'll just spend their time in the outerbanks
8Deer-JaguarClaw t1_is7ktl1 wrote
Better get on that while they still can.
EducationalBicycle35 t1_is7mzue wrote
What's reading?
[deleted] t1_is7pndf wrote
Welcome to the internet chief
well_damm t1_is7t48d wrote
Why ? Have you seen central and south jersey ?
Fallen_Mercury t1_is7zfap wrote
What's Reddit?
Fallen_Mercury t1_is805px wrote
Mr. Zimmerman, that you?
tigertail5644 t1_is86qm9 wrote
Police don't need a signed complaint to move forward when a crime is on video. It's like saying they can't move forward with a murder trial because the dead person won't sign a complaint.
available_username2 t1_is8gpnp wrote
oh shit this was point pleasant? wtf
Top-Crazy1731 t1_is8n137 wrote
It's harassment not the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. It would be heard in municipal court by a judge not a jury. It's considered a disorderly persons offense. The victim is the only one who can sign the complaint for a dp unless it is witnessed by the officer except in domestic violence situations.
thebruns t1_is8qjpv wrote
> unless it is witnessed by the officer
Show the video to the officer.
CapeManiac t1_is8uo1l wrote
Chose_a_usersname t1_is8wny3 wrote
I barely know what a title is, I search by controversial and throw my two cents in
FunGoolAGotz t1_is9v6wj wrote
yeah..that yet another example of MAGA hypocrisy "Law & Order"...only when Tucker says it is ok !
RippingAallDay t1_isa3bj0 wrote
Does anyone know why your question is remotely relevant?
No_Investigator6777 t1_isa3nap wrote
I was simply wondering if she was a good comic. Never heard of her. And she's about to get famous so I was just curious. Kimmel wants her and hopefully her career takes off from this.
PurpleSailor t1_isbdwzv wrote
Ah, it's a shame she won't press charges but I can understand not wanting to make one or more trips to a place I don't live near.
kittyglitther t1_is53k2e wrote
This article has the exchange if you're curious.
And yes, the beer thrower's companion is a red hatter. You can't take republicans anywhere!