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Enjoy_Your_Win t1_itgx0cb wrote

Reply to comment by b4ngl4d3sh in ‘Deeply concerning’: NJ Mayor reacts to video of GOP election official removing Democratic campaign signs by Fit_Hovercraft3827

They’re not litter if they serve a purpose, which they do.

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b4ngl4d3sh t1_itgxctr wrote

Dude, you can't be serious? Litter is litter... And the usefulness of roadside political ads is dubious at best. There are better ways to get your political message out there without further harming an already precarious environmental situation.

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Enjoy_Your_Win t1_itgxomt wrote

As long as the sign convinces at least one person to vote differently, the sign has served its intended purpose and is therefore not litter.

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b4ngl4d3sh t1_itgyxup wrote

I disagree. It's the 21st century. Pay for YouTube ads, go old-school and run radio/tv ads. Anything but creating a one time use item that will end up as forever trash somewhere in an ocean or landfill. We can't really afford to be this nonchalant about useless plastic anymore. They're finding nano plastics in newborn placentas and the baby's themselves.

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Enjoy_Your_Win t1_itgz5d0 wrote

Eh gonna have to agree to disagree here. I’m pretty far from an environmentalist.

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b4ngl4d3sh t1_itgzwv2 wrote

Agree to disagree, I'm not trying to be preachy here. I just hope, as a species, we can do better.

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Enjoy_Your_Win t1_ith0awf wrote

Well unfortunately (and I mean that 100% seriously) there are a lot of people like me who just can’t be bothered with the environment. I don’t have a good rationale for not caring, I just have so many other things going on in my life that I care about more. Maybe I’m just selfish and don’t care about how my actions affect future generations. 🤷‍♂️

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b4ngl4d3sh t1_ith1yei wrote

It's the human condition man, we are an inherently selfish species, i can't hold that against you.

It just irks me because environmentalism goes hand in hand with almost all of my hobbies(bird watching, wildlife photography, hiking, etc). It's a passion of mine and what I've seen over the past 10 years or so is enough to make me weep.

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Enjoy_Your_Win t1_ith2xez wrote

The way I like to think of humanity is that we are inherently good but inherently selfish at the same time. We want what’s best for others - as long as it doesn’t negatively affect ourselves. We primarily care about ourselves and our in-group, also known as our “tribe” which could be anything from your family, friend group, race, sex, political party, etc.

And the funny thing is that even though I’m aware of this, I still fall victim to it. In this case my “tribe” is my generation and possibly the generation after me who will be somewhat affected by climate change but will ultimately be dead when the real consequences start happening.

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b4ngl4d3sh t1_ith3sdx wrote

I feel the same, it's the duality of man. The whole god and the devil dynamic. We can be the most kind, yet most cruel species on this rock. Most of us are concerned with surviving the money crunch, it's out of our hands to fix everything.

I'm already sold on the idea that it's gonna get a lot worse before it gets better, within my lifetime, at least (38yo). The hope is i live to see things start swinging in a positive direction before i shuffle off.

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