ecovironfuturist t1_jdjmfhv wrote
How much would it cost?
Edit since I'm being downvoted: eminent domain means the owner is paid a fair value for the property.
I just want to know what that number is.
nuncio_populi OP t1_jdk1td5 wrote
The cost is irrelevant. The point is to show community resistance to a billionaire’s attempt to take over one of NJ’s best parks.
horsetradem t1_jdkg8zw wrote
The cost is “irrelevant”? Then you can write the check. Don’t piss away my hard earned taxes on nonsense like this.
nuncio_populi OP t1_jdkmgjg wrote
No, let me explain the point again: the objective isn’t that this petition would ever come to fruition.
It’s mainly a way of 1) rallying support and showing Trenton and Phil Murphy how angry Jersey City is at Paul Fireman and his attempted theft of our public land; and 2) highlighting the nonsensical farce that a billionaire (who claims to want to “support the children” of Jersey City) needs our public park to build his amenities instead of using his own property.
If he’s so keen on building these stadiums, concert venues, and community centers, then he’s welcome to donate his golf course to the state park system. Otherwise, we’ll continue this form of protest and seek signatures “asking the state to use eminent domain to compensate him for it.”
What we really want is for Fireman to leave LSP alone so the DEP can complete its environmental remediation and finish restoration of the park’s interior.
AndyIsNotOnReddit t1_jdlaw6z wrote
You’re already paying for it through the massive public infrastructure required: the roads, the police, the sewage, the millions of gallons of water a golf course requires a year, the huge environmental impacts: https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/07/17/golf-is-a-giant-board-game-damaging-the-planet-time-for-it-to-go
All paid for by your tax dollars so some rich guys can play golf on some prime land next to NYC. The best part? You’re too poor to visit this club, you pay for it, they wouldn’t even let you step foot inside of it.
Public park would cost the tax payers way less than continuing to fund the infrastructure requires for this golf course. But by all means feel free to lick the boots of this rich mother fucker that wouldn’t even let you into his club.
ecovironfuturist t1_jdm0rl9 wrote
I just want to know what the purchase price of the property is expected to be. It's a pretty normal question when the state takes on a big project. Eminent domain does not mean it's free for the state.
If you are serious about this proposal this is a basic piece of information you need to include.
oatmealparty t1_jdm40lf wrote
Nobody is serious about this proposal, it's a joke, a protest.
BlissfulGreen2 t1_jdm5so0 wrote
Let’s see….waterfront property with an unobstructed view of downtown Manhattan. How much could that be worth?
AndyIsNotOnReddit t1_jdmknch wrote
It’s going to be less than the billions in environmental and public health long term costs by continuing to support the golf course so 250 rich guys can have their private club.
nuncio_populi OP t1_jdmsybx wrote
By the way, Paul Fireman used hundreds of millions of taxpayer money to help build his golf course.
“The cost of cleanup was picked up by taxpayers, and the developer would be allowed to build a course atop the site at its own expense, under strict regulations. In recent years, Liberty National's price tag has been reported as $250 million. About 90 percent of that figure were Superfund cleanup costs.”
We should send him the bill and use it to deduct against acquisition cost as a “down payment” from the taxpayer.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-presidents-cup-on-the-hudson
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nuncio_populi OP t1_jdmoujc wrote
He used taxpayer money to help build his golf course. And lots of it:
“The cost of cleanup was picked up by taxpayers, and the developer would be allowed to build a course atop the site at its own expense, under strict regulations. In recent years, Liberty National's price tag has been reported as $250 million. About 90 percent of that figure were Superfund cleanup costs.”
Hell, we should send him the fucking bill.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-presidents-cup-on-the-hudson
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