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daedalus_was_right t1_ja87s4e wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Student charged after bullied New Jersey school girl takes her own life by r4816

They aren't.

I've been teaching for a decade, and was a student obviously much longer before that. I experienced the same kind of bullying in middle and high school in the 90s and 2000s. I also attempted suicide. The only reason I survived is because I was privileged enough to be in a family with good access to healthcare and a good understanding of mental health issues, who got me into therapy.

My schools' administrations, both private and public schools, were just as inept and incapable of stopping the abuse.

I was lucky. Most aren't. But this is nothing new.

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whatsasimba t1_ja8gye4 wrote

Tho original comment is gone, so posting this here.

I was in school in the 80s. Bullied horribly (including physical violence). I finally dropped out in my junior year. You hear about it more, because we have faster/more modes of communication (used to be just whatever made it to national news at 6 and 11) and more modes of capturing evidence. Think about that case where the girl goaded her boyfriend into suicide. This could have happened in the 1970s over the phone. No one would know about it. There would have been no evidence.

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Mullethunt t1_ja88708 wrote

> I experienced the same kind of bullying in middle and high school in the 90s and 2000s.

That's a bold faced lie. No one was on the internet in the 90s-early 2000s like kids are today. Even myself, who grew up on BBS', wasn't on the internet like I am today. The bullying is non-stop and to think it's the same as it was 20-30 years ago is foolish.

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daedalus_was_right t1_ja88rl8 wrote

Whatever you tell yourself to sleep at night, sweetheart. You can ignore the fact that, in my community growing up, everyone had AIM and IRC and other forms of chatrooms that spread rumors and information like wildfire, but that doesn't make it a lie.

Not like that makes any difference; bullying is just as brutal whether the internet exists or not. When your cohort is only 100 people, and you get your shit kicked in in the hallway, the entire school knows what happened before the end of the day.

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trekologer t1_ja89uzl wrote

> everyone had AIM and IRC and other forms of chatrooms that spread rumors and information like wildfire

Yes and no. These things existed but not in an environment where you're always connected to them. You can't say with a straight face that the prevalence of smart phones, tablets, school-issued laptops, etc. hasn't made the opportunities for bullies to target their victims worse.

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daedalus_was_right t1_ja8atgr wrote

I can, actually.

There is documented data that rates of bullying have actually improved over the past few decades.

https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=719

Note that 2009 (the year cited in this data being compared to this decade) was before the introduction of smartphones en messe, and long before the proliferation of social media.

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trekologer t1_ja8d7aj wrote

You're missing my point. Even if the instances of bullying have gone down (and I have no reason to dispute that), today, there are fewer ways to escape bullying. In 1995, we went home after school and we could be isolated from others or if we wanted to talk on the phone to or hang out with friends, we could do that too.

Compare to today. Ding you've been added to a Whatsapp group. Ding you've been mentioned on an Instagram post. Ding your TikTok video has been shared. It is harder to escape all that especially when those are the ways your friends communicate with each other.

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Shishkebarbarian t1_ja8l59r wrote

AIM and IRC are nothing like facebook/tiktok/instagram/whatsapp, just stfu and stop making the story about you.

and this is coming from also someone who grew up on aim and mirc. you're either delusional or a troll. quit being a piece of shit.

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Mullethunt t1_ja89308 wrote

Oh cute, nicknames. Another person that can't have a conversation :)

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daedalus_was_right t1_ja896or wrote

Lmao you call me a liar but cry when you're treated the same way?

Don't throw rocks if you don't want them thrown back, bitch.

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Mullethunt t1_ja89qdo wrote

I cried? I was trying to have a conversation but your panties got twisted. To say/act like the internet is the same today as it was in the late 90s is a straight up lie. This is coming from someone that works in IT, with the internet. Grow the fuck up. I'd hate to be one of your students if you can't even have a conversation without needing to name call immediately.

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daedalus_was_right t1_ja89y58 wrote

Oh you work in IT, that makes you an expert on bullying.

I'm done wasting my time here. I'm not the one that opened the conversation with some name-calling. Good day rube.

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Mullethunt t1_ja8ah22 wrote

Holy shit, you're a teacher with that kind of observation? When the fuck did I say I was an expert in bullying? I called you out for your asinine comment that the internet is the same as it was 30 years ago. Then I gave you my reason why I would say that. You then make this about being a bullying expert? You just want to be upset and truly I feel bad for your students if that's even true. Keep up with the name calling though. It really helps show that you're anti-bullying :)

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