Submitted by PositiveCapital9987 t3_110uhki in newjersey
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PositiveCapital9987 OP t1_j8b36sg wrote
[deleted] t1_j8b3fvz wrote
neekogo t1_j8b3hwv wrote
Washington Heights is safer
PositiveCapital9987 OP t1_j8b3lph wrote
Ik but how much of a difference?
Rusty_Ferberger t1_j8b3uza wrote
Ok...do some Googleing and I am sure you will see lots if "highest crime rate in America" and "most dangerous cities in America". If that's what you're into, it's you're kind of place.
PositiveCapital9987 OP t1_j8b3y8e wrote
What’s worse Philly or Camden?
ianisms10 t1_j8b4ncj wrote
I don't know anything about Washington Heights, but Camden is one of the least safe cities in New Jersey.
onebaddoc t1_j8b5c69 wrote
Center of town and the waterfront are safe and well patrolled, good for a run or bike. Not a lot of food or hangout locations besides The victor and donkeys place. Easy to get to center of philly if you are walking distance to the PATCO. If you have a car, you will likely want to drive to collingswood, cherry hill, and haddonfield for food, shops, and drinks.
The Kroc center in east Camden is like a ymca, is cheap and very clean.
SouthJerseyPride t1_j8b5cei wrote
Both suck right now honestly
The_survey_says t1_j8b5fsu wrote
Camden is a dump. Good luck.
Zhuul t1_j8b5pz9 wrote
Camden gets nasty but the nasty is very localized. It used to be murder city but the violence has plummeted in the last decade.
Nowadays it’s not crazy dangerous if you pay attention, but it is still a very poor area and your car will almost certainly be broken into at some point.
peter-doubt t1_j8b97fg wrote
Camden.. parts of Philly offer some competition.
You might want to look up River along the River Line.... cheap commute to downtown Camden, patco station right there. There's Some sweet places north of Pennsauken.
Vinnie908 t1_j8ba0ef wrote
It’s a downgrade
ApplicationNo2506 t1_j8bc9z9 wrote
Yea man don’t carry cash on you. I got a friend who grew up there. Knew what parts to stay away from. Him and most of his family was robbed at knife/gun point at one point or another.
Living in the hood is tempting because of low rent but it’s not worth it
cerialthriller t1_j8bcfg2 wrote
Philly has a couple of decent areas, Camden does not
flames_of_chaos t1_j8bg6oc wrote
Camden and North Philly are equally bad.
[deleted] t1_j8bgs47 wrote
How to apply for the expedited conceal and carry.
PositiveCapital9987 OP t1_j8bgwb3 wrote
Jimmytowne t1_j8biu38 wrote
Nothing. You’re good
DerSturmbannfuror t1_j8bjoee wrote
Don't know if it's center of town but the area around the patio/River line station is terrible. Looks like a set from THE LAST OF US imho
fuzedz t1_j8bkqa9 wrote
In the US*
whaler76 t1_j8blqoj wrote
Wild-Supermarket-443 t1_j8bmvhb wrote
Camden is basically worse than Detroit
sugarmag13 t1_j8bnxkj wrote
Why?
I_Am_Skipples t1_j8bnyax wrote
Probably should have looked at other options
healthierlurker t1_j8bp6k4 wrote
Did you like, research that at all before deciding to make this move?
Redditlurker922 t1_j8bpgpy wrote
No bodegas
Odd_Stomach_4715 t1_j8bqv5y wrote
You should know you made a big mistake
bakingeyedoc t1_j8bsr2o wrote
Why would you purposely move to Camden? If you need to commute there are far better towns in the area that aren’t called Camden.
Smacpats111111 t1_j8bvu3f wrote
Assume you’re going to die.
highporkroller t1_j8bw3gi wrote
You should NOT do that.
spicymemesdotcom t1_j8bx1os wrote
Why?
tduke65 t1_j8bx575 wrote
Seriously. Don’t move to Camden. It’s a shithole
trade4599 t1_j8bxr2r wrote
Was Kensington in Philly too rich for you?
Available-Marzipan54 t1_j8by3ew wrote
Camden is WORSE than Washington Heights…trust me!!!! I know Washington Heights too
blumpkin_donuts t1_j8by8dt wrote
This has to be a joke.
hey_look_a_kitty t1_j8byqi3 wrote
You sure you want to do that?
LargestAdultSon t1_j8bz7yh wrote
Corinne’s Place, the soul food restaurant across the street from Donkey’s, is also good. People have recommended Blowin’ Smoque (barbecue food truck turned brick-and-mortar), but I haven’t tried it myself.
Professional_Log4112 t1_j8bza7e wrote
double your life insurance
IT_Trashman t1_j8bzdu0 wrote
The commute from Cherry Hill wont be too bad. For real, just don't. I can't think of a really good reason to live inside of Camden. Nearby is bad enough.
SmeemyMeemy t1_j8c2mxf wrote
I do not blame anyone or Camden at all. It is what it is. I will say that when I was student teaching one day I came out to find my car on cinderblocks. I was well liked by parents and students. Every car had something done to it so it was just bad luck. A lot of tweaked out people scattered. Just be careful. I live .6 from the heart now and still get anxious every now and then. Also my neighbor was stabbed in the ACME parking lot 30 minutes after I got my prescription.
Zhuul t1_j8c3ca7 wrote
Yeah it’s hardly a utopia, I’m sorry if I sounded like I was painting an overly rosy picture. It’s gotten better, though, and more importantly seems poised to continue trending in that direction.
Just be prepared for bullshit and keep your wits about you. And if you’re ever feeling down you can always go to the aquarium and say hi to their prehensile tailed porcupine.
Seriously, their nose looks like a giant pink marshmallow, it’s goddamned adorable.
SmeemyMeemy t1_j8c4qvj wrote
YES! SO cute! I love doing looking at the Battleship New Jersey as well. There is a little old man down in the cafeteria that is just a wealth of knowledge! (I also painted the cafeteria and "dorms" when I was a Girl Scout)
iberian_prince t1_j8c9lqy wrote
I feel much safer in washington heights. Camden was once the most dangerous city in the entirety of the USA. No one ever told you “dont stop at the red lights” in washington heights. Camden has gotten better than a decade ago for sure, however, its crime areas are no joke. Camden and Philly and ruthless.
herslave2 t1_j8c9q8w wrote
When you find the blue bus you have to have a pork roll egg and cheese. It is to die for and living in Camden, well you off to a good start.
Existing-Orchid6128 t1_j8ckaep wrote
Hope that girl is worth it. That’s the only logical reason why you would move to Camden
Ecstatic-Passage-113 t1_j8cpvt9 wrote
It is a dominion of death at the center of celestial existence. It is where Thanos murdered my sister.
FeatureTemporary991 t1_j8csd6l wrote
Maybe consider Trenton?
AnxietyIsEnergy t1_j8d0tum wrote
Why and what’s your budget? There are better places in NJ.
alohabruh732 t1_j8d2g5b wrote
You’re doing WHAT
Intelligent_Ad7737 t1_j8d3bu3 wrote
Any other option besides Camden would be a better option
la_de_cha t1_j8d3khi wrote
I was coming here to say Corinne’s. They won a James Beard Award last year.
tugger97 t1_j8d4c18 wrote
Take a look at Collingswood, Oaklyn, or literally anything on the PATCO line instead.
nacho78 t1_j8d4yt9 wrote
Camden has nice sections. Not all Camden is bad.
scooterbike1968 t1_j8d5u5j wrote
Maybe the county…
DreamsAndSchemes t1_j8d7d5i wrote
Camden City or Camden County?
PositiveCapital9987 OP t1_j8d7ets wrote
Significant_Limit_68 t1_j8d7q8t wrote
Get a CCP.
Barockobonga t1_j8d8on6 wrote
Don't do it
Banana_bride t1_j8d8xc4 wrote
Camden is #14 most dangerous places to live in the US and chance of violent crime is like 1 in 60 people. A friend went to a concert in Camden and a cop stopped at a red light next to him and told him to slow down at red lights, make sure no cars were coming, and to go through to get out of the area as fast as possible.
imnotsure_yet t1_j8d9g5b wrote
Frying pan to fire. Good luck
solesme t1_j8db2ri wrote
The mofongo isn’t as good in Camden.
zac987 t1_j8dbye8 wrote
This is such a goofy response. Philly is vastly better than Camden in every way, and you know that.
cerialthriller t1_j8ddhcp wrote
Did you read what I wrote and think I said Camden was better?
Rude-Bison-2050 t1_j8df9dh wrote
Camden is neck and neck with Newark for biggest shit hole in the state…. Why
aubishop t1_j8df9i8 wrote
Corinne's Place is one of the better restaurants in the entire state! James Beard Award either last year or year before. Smoque was crazy good off the truck but haven't tried since going storefront
drno31 t1_j8dhis0 wrote
Ok but if you don't have cash on you, how does that make an encounter more safe? I feel like having $40 ready to hand over is safer than saying "sorry man, no cash today"
Realistic-Captain207 t1_j8dhnxv wrote
Mad as well rent a room in rockers island 🤣 all commodities included. Do not do it.
DullTommy555 t1_j8djqir wrote
Run.
Gooseymcgooseface22 t1_j8dnagc wrote
Don’t ?
False-Studio220 t1_j8dnpt8 wrote
You went from the frying into the fire my friend
rupeshjoy852 t1_j8dnwgw wrote
Get a dog and security cams, and backup cams because the cameras could get stolen too.
Goldfish2022 t1_j8dqktu wrote
Know you've made a terrible mistake
Hazellin313 t1_j8ds135 wrote
Did you look into Maple Shade or Voorhees they are pretty close to Camden and much much safer
ManchuDemon t1_j8dvz9w wrote
Legitimately curious as to why you're moving there. Did you take a job there (and if so, what kind) and not have a car so you can't live far away?
Duck_Duck_Penis t1_j8dzit1 wrote
Why? No like really why? If it’s for work look at Ewing or Trenton
PraiseLoptous t1_j8e2erw wrote
Philly has rich parts, but the ghettos in Philly are so much worse than camden. Camden is just very dead and depressing. If you have kids, send them to the charter or the technical school
PraiseLoptous t1_j8e2l63 wrote
I seriously doubt any moving to Camden has collingswood money. Use your common sense
PraiseLoptous t1_j8e2nj5 wrote
And the houses are double the price…
Hazellin313 t1_j8e2qk5 wrote
I assumed he/she was renting I do understand your point though
PraiseLoptous t1_j8e2tzo wrote
People here are full of shit. The only time I’ve ever been robbed and broken into is when I lived the suburbs. Camden is more depressing and boring than it is terrifying.
PraiseLoptous t1_j8e38zn wrote
Yeah, it’s the difference between a one bed apartment and a 3 bed house with backyard and parking. I know lots of people who can technically “afford” to leave Camden, but they would rather be hood rich than suburban poor.
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That_girL987 t1_j8e9r0f wrote
Not the best idea.
JAFO4hire t1_j8eep44 wrote
I thought people were only looking to move OUT of Camden.
At least you will be close to a good hospital.
SearchContinues t1_j8eg793 wrote
Washington Heights NYC is probably farther along with gentrification than Camden. I'll admit I haven't even visited Camden in a decade since it was one of those areas where a wrong turn could lead to ending up becoming involved in a negative statistic.
baseball8888 t1_j8elwdg wrote
You dont lose your $40 and a lot of times a mugger will see any cash as an indication you have more
tugger97 t1_j8elxhn wrote
It’s not like I said Haddonfield. It sounds like they are unfamiliar with the area and there are sometimes options this time of year especially closer to Ferry Ave. I know RU-C students who have made it work. Not sure of OP’s circumstance.
TheRealJoeyGs t1_j8ena4m wrote
It’s not inconceivable. BUT you better be street smart and tough. If you are some do gooder, hipster, tree hugger, Camden will eat you alive. Just keeping it real!
myxleanaxxount t1_j8eoa1j wrote
Bro why. Like just move to a surrounding town, or philly
damebyron t1_j8eukgu wrote
There’s no doubt that Camden has some really bad areas and crime and is impoverished but I guarantee half the people commenting are going off reputation alone and haven’t spent significant time there. “Camden is dangerous” is a local urban legend at this point (not saying it isn’t grounded in fact but just that the reputation is so entrenched it’ll be slow to adjust if/when Camden improves similar to how people living in Camden who haven’t been to NYC since the early 90s still think Harlem is terrifying). There are parts of it that are more gentrified than the Heights and other parts that are more dangerous and more impoverished, it all depends on your neighborhood.
As for advice, lock your car doors while driving there, every time.
Ok_Cheetah9520 t1_j8eyvz6 wrote
Grew up in Camden. Still work there. Ask me anything. I’m biased.
Ok_Cheetah9520 t1_j8ezekx wrote
Technically true
Ok_Cheetah9520 t1_j8ezv6i wrote
A corner of Cramer Hill, the area around Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital and a few blocks of East Camden that border Pennsauken are still immaculate.
There’s also a ton of gentrification happening around the Center City-Waterfront area.
Ok_Cheetah9520 t1_j8f0dvp wrote
Are you looking to make some community good, looking to make a quick buck (legal or illegal), or just looking for a safe place to home?
Desperate-Can757 t1_j8f0mka wrote
"I'm moving to Camden!"...said no one ever...until now!
PeaceDawgg12 t1_j8f5tee wrote
Most of these people have never stepped foot into Camden. East Camden is similar to Washington Heights, large Dominican/Boricua community as well as other latin Americans. There are dangerous parts of Camden but East Camden is similar to Pennsauken. Definitely not the war zone these people are making it out to be.
PositiveCapital9987 OP t1_j8f62js wrote
What about North Camden?
PeaceDawgg12 t1_j8f7tmy wrote
North Camden is like North Philly in a lot of ways, big Rican community. Its not as dangerous as it used to be and has improved due to Rutgers and development around the waterfront, but you should be mindful of your surroundings.
PeaceDawgg12 t1_j8f81bm wrote
You've never been to Camden if you don't think there are decent areas. Most of East Camden is fine.
TheCNJYankeecub t1_j8fhgh7 wrote
Stay in NY. Camden is a cesspool
theNancini t1_j8fs2xj wrote
Most bulletproof vests only have a 5 year shelf life & they are not "knife proof"
Bergamoted t1_j8gflad wrote
You will be ight bro! I was from the bx so you will be fine
Bergamoted t1_j8gfm0l wrote
You will be ight bro! I was from the bx so you will be fine
InspiredBlue t1_j8gubge wrote
My question is why Camden?
InspiredBlue t1_j8guinn wrote
Camden was once voted the most dangerous city in the US if that gives you any idea.
ShakeLost5528 t1_j8hkzx9 wrote
Cooper Grant/Lanning Square are probably the most appealing as the former is amongst the safest parts of the city and both have new modern apartments, affordable rents, and nearby job opportunities as well as quick access to Philadelphia.
Waterfront South, specifically around the Ferry Ave/Broadway corridor has plenty of better off families who run non profits and run community gardens, theaters, and parks within the neighborhood. However like most neighborhoods in the downtown/south part of the city there is a large homeless and drug problem.
Fairview is a nice choice for Hispanics who can’t afford to buy or rent in East Camden. It has multiple commercial districts, a few restaurants, and an actual grocery store which is more than most parts of the city. It’s also adjacent to Collingswood/Audubon so more shopping and nightlife is close. It’s zoned for Camden High which has been rebuilt and combined with a performing arts, medical arts, and trade school.
Stockton/Rosedale (East Camden) are nicer neighborhoods, also predominantly Hispanic, and are working class neighborhoods with pockets of middle class. They’re more family oriented with more single family homes and newer suburban-style homes. The Camden’s Promise school is located in these neighborhoods and it is the highest ranked school in the city with residents from nearby Pennsauken attending as well. The parts that touch the Cramer Hill/Marlton neighborhoods do have more crime though (mostly thefts and robberies).
Parkside, specifically between Kaighn Ave to the West, Vesper Blvd to the East, and Haddon Ave to the South has more older retirees and middle class African American families. It’s located next to the Lady of Lourdes hospital which is a nice employment hub for the city and Camden High. It also features the Society Hill development which has some of the nicest homes in the city! There’s also a new park that features access to the creek system of Camden it’s also connected to the new park in nearby Cramer Hill.
The best neighborhood will be dependent on what best suits you and your level of tolerance. Like all cities there is crime and problems in every neighborhood. Coming from Washington Heights you might be able to even move into neighborhoods not listed on here if you have street smarts and stay to yourself.
ShakeLost5528 t1_j8hl47f wrote
Not all of Camden is horrible. There are sections safer/wealthier than other suburbs. Plus it’s central to jobs and convenient for those wanting city life without Philadelphia prices.
ShakeLost5528 t1_j8hl8jc wrote
This! I know lots of families in the city who could afford to purchase in the suburbs but their living expenses would increase substantially and they wouldn’t be able to enjoy other luxuries in their current lifestyles.
ThatBitch1984 t1_j8ia1k6 wrote
Camden has a violent crime rate of 13.78 per 1000 residents. Washing heights has a violent crime rate of 11.7 per 1000
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coversbyrichard t1_j8ng37k wrote
Google and Wikipedia is free.
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On this episode of "101 ways to die early"
New_Hawaialawan t1_j98pr4f wrote
I don't know, there were shootings there regularly during 2022
Rusty_Ferberger t1_j8b340o wrote
Do people really move to Camden?