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Tai9ch t1_j2zb3cq wrote

Reply to comment by Boats_are_fun in New Hampshire Bill Would Ban “No-Knock” Warrants by AuthorSnow

Gear? Who cares.

Training? Yes.

More important is liability. There's no excuse for government employees to be able to willfully hurt people and destroy (or even outright steal) their property and then be immune to lawsuits.

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owwwwwo t1_j2zdsg1 wrote

Gear sends a message. When you equip a person for war, it puts their mind in a war-like mentality.

Now I'm not saying don't let them have guns and kevlar under their shirts.

But we need to get away from BDUs with Tactical vests being the "norm". We're not in Afghanistan.

Say what you will about Troopers, I actually like their normal uniforms. Except that one dude in the Black surburban, again, that is dressed like he's in the ARMY.

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Tai9ch t1_j2zf86f wrote

That's a reasonable argument.

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Playingwithmyrod t1_j2zg0n0 wrote

Liability is the real issue. Do I care if the police have an armoured car and swat gear? Not really.

But whether they use that or a standard issue handgun...if they wrongfully kill a baby I want someone in jail.

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anarchir t1_j30dsa3 wrote

I would care less that they had armored cars if they were honest about why they bought them and if we were allowed to have one too.

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bestryanever t1_j30etp4 wrote

You should care, your tax dollars pay for the insurance premiums and maintenance on that stuff, and it’s ridiculously expensive. If they don’t need it they shouldn’t have it

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NathanVfromPlus t1_j30jjme wrote

If they shouldn't have military training, then why would taxpayers need to equip them with military gear?

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Tai9ch t1_j321o8i wrote

Military training isn't really broadly the problem. The military explicitly trains to never shoot the wrong people, to not shoot first, and that civilians are not to be treated as enemy combatants by default.

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NathanVfromPlus t1_j32dye6 wrote

But that still doesn't explain why taxpayers should pay cops to be trained (edit: and equipped) to treat them as militant enemy combatants.

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TreePointOhhhhh t1_j2zr0tl wrote

Agreed. They can have whatever gear they want. But we should also be able to have whatever gear they have.

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Tai9ch t1_j2zvmkg wrote

> But we should also be able to have whatever gear they have.

I'd go a step further and say that they shouldn't be buying anything (or accepting it from the feds) unless it will be auctioned to the public after a reasonable service life.

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Mynewuseraccountname t1_j31afux wrote

Cops don't need tanks. Period. Sure as hell don't need equipment they aren't trained or qualified to use.

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