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checdc t1_j2wzebg wrote

Why don't you give cops the benefit of the doubt since 99.9% of the time they are justified. Why assume they did something wrong here? Statistics don't back up this reaction

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checdc t1_j2xrzwx wrote

FBI crime statistics go look them up. There are litterally millions of police interactions a year. Yes some end tragically that doesn't mean it's the cops fault and until there is a video showing wrong doing I'll give those who serve in a thankless job the benefit of the doubt. I am in fact unbias. You though clearly have a bias hate of police which is sad for you.

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checdc t1_j2zaiku wrote

1055 people were killed by police in 2021. Only 21 officers faced charges. Aka someone feeling like it wasn't justified. That's 1.9% but that's a little flawed because in the case of unjustified shootings many times it's multiple officers facing charges for 1 shooting which would make that an even smaller %. With that said only 1/3rd of officers who are charged are found guilty of an unjustified shooting which means at best 0.6. So I guess I was off by a little bit it's 99.3% ish are justified sry lol

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checdc t1_j2ziw3p wrote

Maybe 10 years ago but not today. Today cops are under a fine microscope. Some would say people like yourself have an unrealistic expectation of their fellow humans. No cop goes to work wanting to end another humans life. I can't imagine the pressure of going to work a thankless job where a mistake in the most adrenaline fueled situation could land me in prison for 20 years. Imagine being 1 year from retirement. Following all your department training and still getting thrown in jail for something someone who wasn't even their thinks you did wrong. All I'm saying is let the facts come out before you condemn those who put it on the line every day.

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Clinically-Inane t1_j30nkw2 wrote

Thank you for that last couple sentences; it’s what I’ve been trying to explain all night, but what you just said is the concise bottom line

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checdc t1_j2z6el1 wrote

Lol my karma rating is the way it is because I challenge people on their bs. You are a cop hater simple as that. I'm not licking anyone's boots. I'm saying that 99.9% of police shootings are justified but even if that number was 90 or 80 it baffles me how people like you just assume the cop did something wrong. I can provide you links but I find it much more educational when people like yourself go look up answers on your own. If I provide you a source your learn nothing. If you genuinely want to educate yourself I'm happy to help you though.

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2020Engineer t1_j2xvy5v wrote

Statistics might be a good starting point but they are one dimensional (justifiable murder or not) and are bias (who determines that). There are circumstances where it's justified but it sure as shit isn't 99.9%. People's are upset because cops killed a kid during a situation which at a glance does not appear to be life or death.

Cops are human. They have bias, corrupted motives, adrenaline, fear, poor training, etc. No one wants to see someone in jail for an accident on the job. Mixed feeling on how it should be handled or prevented.

None the less someone's kid is dead.
To write is off as justified because it's a cop is bull shit.

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vexingsilence t1_j2zd61j wrote

>People's are upset because cops killed a kid during a situation which at a glance does not appear to be life or death.

Based on what?

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2020Engineer t1_j30fcy9 wrote

A glance... A headline and periodical. No real details.

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checdc t1_j2xxa04 wrote

I would say at a Glace doesn't matter. The life and death determination is made by the person or officer who pulled the trigger. Sometime tough choices have to be made. I garentee that officer is far more upset about it then anyone on this sub. No one wants to be in that situation and those that end up there live with it forever.

You can disagree with facts all you want but the stats on shootings and police interactions being justified vs not being justified is 99.9% sry if you don't agree. Even the most manipulated stats are in the 90s if you don't agree look them up.

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vexingsilence t1_j2x187x wrote

Lots of ACAB'ers here. Like you said, it's more likely the cops acted to defend themselves and protect the lives of others. If less lethal options didn't work or weren't practical given the situation, they did what they had to do. But many/most want to jump to the less likely scenario.

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checdc t1_j2xtcjg wrote

Exactly and you can tell just how delusional the people on this subredit are by the down votes a sensable comment recieves. It's so sad

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