Submitted by RidingBeen t3_zyc0yz in newhampshire
fire_drier t1_j25230q wrote
Yes. I’ve had to take a couple down in my day. I hang a sign first giving them a week. I know that isn’t long but they were dicks to come on my land without asking in the first place. I’ve also had to remove game cams. I don’t hang a sign for those.
bluecollarNH t1_j25op50 wrote
I agree it should be taken down after the season. But, per NH law, if the land isn't posted, you don't NEED to ask permission to use it.
I hunt. I hunt other people's land. I usually ask permission based on what the land seems to be used for/size of the lot. But a lot over 50 acres? Not asking permission.
fire_drier t1_j25rx5n wrote
I post my land from all the boundaries that are easy to access via my vehicle. It’s just a hair over 50 acres. In the past, people have put up stands or cams in an area that is easily accessible via the neighbor’s property (that he doesn’t have posted) but is hard for me to access without my waders on. There are a few other stands in that area so they might think it’s okay. It’s not. The guys who have stands there are ones that know that I walk my two dogs there every day rain or shine and I don’t fancy being shot.
bluecollarNH t1_j25xqtp wrote
I would never hunt posted property. OP was talking about unposted property. Huge difference.
fire_drier t1_j25z7i3 wrote
I understand and agree. I just wanted to clarify that my land may initially appear unposted from some directions, and also note that the law says it must be posted on all property lines in order to be properly posted, but that there could be circumstances in which the landowner strongly prefers to be asked first despite the land appearing to be unposted.
CheliceraeJones t1_j260a41 wrote
If I cross only your line that isn't posted, I have no way of knowing that it's posted or that you'd "prefer to be asked first".
fire_drier t1_j260unz wrote
You have no idea about the particulars of my land, the particulars of the land that it abuts, how many people in my community use it, how many people have knowledge of it, or anything really.
CheliceraeJones t1_j2685ja wrote
>or anything really.
Really dude? Do you have to resort to this kind of bullshit?
Anyway, that's not worth focusing on. The points stands, if I cross a line that isn't posted and it looks exactly like the land that I came from, then I have no way of knowing that the line on the opposite side of your property is posted. And I also have no idea what your preference is (not that it matters what your preference is if you don't post). If you don't post, that's on you. You can always post it so that hunting is by permission of landowner only.
Qbncgr t1_j299b2k wrote
If you can’t access the entire perimeter of your property, you can post a portion of it. The “no hunting” can be the entire property or just certain parcels. This allows you to post certain areas, such as a pasture, dog walking area, or an area around house/barn.
You could also post “no hunting without permission”. This allows you to control access while still allowing hunting.
whoisdizzle t1_j25uiwv wrote
So if someone owns enough land you won’t ask permission before discharging guns on their land? Especially your phrasing makes it seem like you know it’s private property. That’s moronic. Sure you are doing Gods work converting more people to like hunters and support 2A
fire_drier t1_j2601qf wrote
It is actually the law that this is perfectly legal. A landowner needs to post No Hunting signs at 100 yard intervals on all property boundaries to be properly posted as no hunting. In practice, most people know their neighbors and ask first. If the OP doesn’t know who put up the stand, I would recommend hanging a note with a cell number on it to start. Eventually, sure, take it down.
lendluke t1_j28jhbb wrote
I'm not sure I disagree with you, but saying "that's the law" is somewhat irrelevant, except if law enforcement is involved. If the law said you can hunt in a unposted convenience store, I'd hope we all agree that was legal, no one should do that still.
Jay_Derkin t1_j25yznk wrote
It’s state law, if you don’t like it then make an effort to change it.
bluecollarNH t1_j25y0yp wrote
You're assuming I'm using firearms to hunt. Wrong.
Also, I'm not trying to convert anyone to anything. NH law states if it's not posted, you can hunt it, simple as that.
Crazy_Hick_in_NH t1_j2606dt wrote
This further confirms my position that landowners don’t “really” own the land they think they own. If one did, s/he wouldn’t need to post signage prohibiting such “public” use.
Right or wrong, I still don’t know how I feel about this…seems like we’re sold an ownership “lie” and for what?
What I also find interesting is the 10 acre common use tax classification. Am I understanding correctly in that if you own 10+ acres and place the tract into common use, you could obtain an additional 20% reduction in tax payments (on top of what is provided as a result of common use status) IF you also keep your land open to public use?
GraniteGeekNH t1_j268dc1 wrote
I believe you are correct about tax status. The idea is that New Hampshire is a better place for everybody if we can make use of it, so let's give a financial incentive to keep woodlands open to all.
Crazy_Hick_in_NH t1_j26kjfd wrote
So long as we’re talking about land taxes accordingly, I’m all for this. I mean, if you own that much property and aren’t doing anything with it besides placing it in common use (I.e., tax relief), why not?
Jay_Derkin t1_j25yu3n wrote
They were fully within their legal right to hunt on your land without asking, and few people in NH care about that. That being said, it’s always best to ask.
Edit - proof for all you idiots downvoting factual info.
2_dam_hi t1_j26355v wrote
Hunt, yes. Install a permanent tree stand? Not so sure.
Jay_Derkin t1_j263ca1 wrote
A stand strapped to a tree isn’t permanent.
SolitudeNH t1_j29mpp4 wrote
You are correct that they can legally hunt and put up a tree stand. BUT OP is also legally 100% allowed to take that tree stand, as it’s on their property, hence why it’s considered polite and smart to ask permission to hunt property and put up stands
Edit; also, I don’t think “few people care about that”. I own a couple hundred acres, and care very much that people ask permission. Especially as we then tell them no tree stands with bolts or hardware into the tree and take them down off season, as we have and continue to harvest lumber off our land for hundreds of years, and nothing fucks the headsaw up like a tree stand spike.
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