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AMC4x4 OP t1_iz1dw8e wrote

Kinda tough to say Russia didn't influence our election in 2016 when one candidate's own "former" campaign manager was giving polling data to the GRU in-person.

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ZacPetkanas t1_iz1eiko wrote

> Kinda tough to say Russia didn't influence our election in 2016 when one candidate's own "former" campaign manager was giving polling data to the GRU in-person.

Did they "hack" our election? Hillary made claims that Russia was hacking voter rolls. Y'all got any proof?

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dojijosu t1_iz1gdmo wrote

The hairs the Orange Man has caused you to split… “That wasn’t technically insurrection.” “You call that a truck bomb? It barely exploded at all!” “Russia didn’t technically hack anything…”

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AMC4x4 OP t1_iz1m1xb wrote

Not to mention if this had been on the other side? I mean, can you imagine if Biden's "former" campaign manager who had JUST "resigned" was caught meeting with Chinese government-linked officials and giving them polling data for Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona? These people are just something. They're losing their shit over the Biden campaign (NOT government officials at the time, just so we're clear) asking Twitter to remove Hunter Biden's dick pics. I mean, come on now.

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dojijosu t1_iz1qnlc wrote

Right? They’d be on their AM radio shows that sell peenee pills and cash for gold scams talking about watering the tree of liberty.

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ZacPetkanas t1_iz1gxtt wrote

> The hairs the Orange Man has caused you to split… “That wasn’t technically insurrection.” “You call that a truck bomb? It barely exploded at all!” “Russia didn’t technically hack anything…”

Ah, I see. taking out some Facebook ads is "hacking." Got it.

Hillary is in that video alleging that "Russia" actually hacked voter rolls. Am I splitting hairs in quoting her?

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dojijosu t1_iz1ix5q wrote

Yeah… you should read slower.

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ZacPetkanas t1_iz1kbxj wrote

> Yeah… you should read slower.

Upthread asked for evidence of Democrats claiming fraud in 2016. I provided such evidence. That's the long and short of it. You brought up "Orange Man," etc.

¡Chao!

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dojijosu t1_iz1kh0p wrote

It’s “Ciao,” but you’re no stranger to being wrong.

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ZacPetkanas t1_iz1kxb2 wrote

/u/dojijosu ignorantly wrote:

> It’s “Ciao,” but you’re no stranger to being wrong.

¡Chao!

Ooof.

(the inverted exclamation point should have been a clue for you)

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dojijosu t1_iz1qf1j wrote

Spanish minor. Traveled in Spain and Latin America. No one ever spells it that way.

¡Ciao! pendejo.

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ZacPetkanas t1_iz1vkhe wrote

/u/dojijosu doubled-down on their ignorance and wrote:

> Spanish minor. Traveled in Spain and Latin America. No one ever spells it that way

Even when presented with the fact that it is spelled C-H-A-O in Latin America you still think you're correct. You are a lefty, for sure.

> nO oNe EvEr SpElLs It ThAt WaY.

Expect Except for, I dunno, the people who live there.

> Desde que empezaron a abrirse las grietas en AP, un segmento del electorado que no votó por Lenín Moreno lo animó a decir “chao”.

> "¡Fora Dilma, chao Dilma!", se oía desde las ventanas de los edificios en el rico barrio de Jardins,

> “Chao Rosita, chao Rosita”, gritaron tres de los pequeños antes de subirse al vehículo.

> “Chao mi amor, mañana la espero en la parada para traerla”.

edit: fixed typo. Muchísimas gracias, /u/dojijosu

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dojijosu t1_iz1y6w4 wrote

  • “except” for

But do go on with your nuanced analysis.

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ZacPetkanas t1_iz2ax0u wrote

> “except” for > But do go on with your nuanced analysis.

Oh, so you're both ignorant and don't understand sardonic remarks. No problem, I have something just for you

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dojijosu t1_iz2b1fj wrote

Mistaking the words “expect” and “except” is not sardonic. It’s moronic.

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ZacPetkanas t1_iz2bar0 wrote

> Mistaking the words “expect” and “except” is not sardonic. It’s moronic.

Oh, a typo! I'm mortally wounded

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dojijosu t1_iz2bfwp wrote

Oh, so now it’s a typo and not highbrow comedy?

¡Que chistoso!

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ZacPetkanas t1_iz2c824 wrote

> Oh, so now it’s a typo and not highbrow comedy?

Uh yeah? It was a typo made while making a sardonic statement.

Still going to stand by the Italian spelling of "chao" in Spanish or no?

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Lester_Diamond23 t1_iz1w0yc wrote

No, you didn't. Please provide an alternative source or corroboration if you are so confident

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ZacPetkanas t1_iz1we28 wrote

> No, you didn't. Please provide an alternative source or corroboration if you are so confident

Yes, I did.

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Lester_Diamond23 t1_iz1wykg wrote

See my last response....no you didn't. Unless you are willing to concede Trump's a racist from the Charlottesville very fine people clip?

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bookon t1_iz1nexq wrote

Did she send a mob to prevent Joe Biden from certifying the results in January of 2017? No? Then not the same.

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ZacPetkanas t1_iz1ob1n wrote

> Did she send a mob to prevent Joe Biden from certifying the results in January of 2017? No? Then not the same.

That wasn't the question.

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bookon t1_iz1oroq wrote

Stop both siding this. Russia used disinformation and helped get trump elected. She’s an old lady. Not a tech guru.

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ZacPetkanas t1_iz1ptf7 wrote

> Stop both siding this. Russia used disinformation and helped get trump elected. She’s an old lady. Not a tech guru.

Proof was provided of many, many Democrats and media figures making election fraud claims. That's what was asked for.

Russia bought some Facebook ads.

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bookon t1_iz1qivp wrote

Ok did Hillary concede? Yes. Did Trump? No. Hillary complained and Trump tried to end the republic so it’s not the same. You need it to be so your guys don’t see as extreme. You can’t admit you support people who would end democracy if they could.

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ZacPetkanas t1_iz1vwgq wrote

> You need it to be so your guys don’t see as extreme. You can’t admit you support people who would end democracy if they could.

Once again, I answered the question that was asked. "Did democrats claim fraud in the 2016 election?" Yes, they did.

Everything past that is an argument you're having in your head. You don't need me to participate in this, because you're arguing with things I haven't said. This is all you.

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bookon t1_iz4shu0 wrote

I never said that some didn't. I said it was a false equivalency.

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Lester_Diamond23 t1_iz1vw47 wrote

You provided a nonesense YouTube with voice over. You provided no proof of anything

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ZacPetkanas t1_iz1wc7p wrote

> You provided a nonesense YouTube with voice over. You provided no proof of anything

Why are you lying? Yes there are some voiceovers in the video but there are plenty of clips of people speaking in their own voices.

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Lester_Diamond23 t1_iz1x1vx wrote

Highly edited jump cuts with no context means nothing. Show something objective smh

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bookon t1_iz4seuh wrote

Hillary Conceded. This week Trump called for termination of the constitution and his installment of president.

Again, I am not sure why you guys need this false equivalency, other than to lie to yourself that you're not supporting bad people.

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Lester_Diamond23 t1_iz1vsxx wrote

Can you point out this claim?

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ZacPetkanas t1_iz1w7ax wrote

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Lester_Diamond23 t1_iz1wpsf wrote

There is zero context to this highly edited 7 second clip, do you have the full interview or any other context around it? Or are you just looking to cherry pick 6 word sentences and claim they mean something?

I'm happy to admit I'm wrong, you just heed to come up with something better than that garbage. Like if I post a quick clip of the "very fine people on both sides" clip from Trump and Charlottesville, it sounds like he is calling the tiki asshole racists very fine people when he is I'm fact not. Is it fair to do that? No. So why do it here with this clip?

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dojijosu t1_iz1zj7j wrote

Lester, save your breath with Zac. He heard someone do rhetoric once and thought “Huh. That seems easy. You just keep stringing words together.”

Ciao, Zac.

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