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clickmahheels t1_j1u26lw wrote

Reply to comment by smartest_kobold in Woman Who Gave Birth In Manchester Homeless Camp Faces Reckless Conduct Charge by xforce4life

Many people commit crimes for understandable reasons, but that doesn’t reduce the criminality.

A woman should be able to give birth wherever she wants, but if she leaves the baby to freeze to death that’s a big problem.

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smartest_kobold t1_j1u4kwa wrote

If people aren't forced into these kinds of situations, there are a lot fewer reasons. If a woman walks off from her baby in a hospital, that's not even a crime.

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clickmahheels t1_j1u4ufj wrote

We specifically have laws that allow people to abandon their children in safe places. No one is forced to be a parent, but you definitely can’t let a child in your care die of neglect.

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smartest_kobold t1_j1u6e23 wrote

Specifically the point. If she had been able to have a baby where babies are had and not in a tent in winter, there wouldn't have been a crime.

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mycopportunity t1_j1un4g7 wrote

If she had gone to a hospital they would have cared for her and her baby

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smartest_kobold t1_j1ur4oa wrote

Maybe! Do you know which hospitals in Manchester practice patient dumping?

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mycopportunity t1_j1ut9d4 wrote

Which hospitals don't? A pregnant woman showing up ready to give birth would receive care though, right? I hope I'm not wrong

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derek_morin1 t1_j1y36kl wrote

If they turned her away she would go from poor to millionaire relatively quick when she was able to sue the hospital.

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clickmahheels t1_j1uy0um wrote

Where does it say she couldn’t go to a hospital? Sounds like she chose not to due to her mental illness and substance abuse.

The article does say she left the baby alone and uncovered in the tent. Did someone make her do that? Was she prevented by society from holding or wrapping her child in her coat?

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yesyesitswayexpired t1_j1wc9jm wrote

Meth made her do that.

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clickmahheels t1_j2423vl wrote

Yes, which is why I understand how these things took place and can have sympathy for the woman.

Being under the influence does not absolve a person of criminal behavior, though, however tragic the situation is. She is extremely lucky that help arrived and her baby was resuscitated, because she could have been responsible for so much worse.

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