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SnooPeripherals5969 t1_j1su7m5 wrote

It was 18 degrees out, she had just given birth prematurely with no medical support, likely mental health or addiction issues st play. and typically there is a fair amount of blood loss when giving birth. She was unable to give correct information on where the baby was to first responders.

It’s probable that she was scared, delirious , confused from blood loss and the trauma of labor, or suffering post partum symptoms. I’m pissed off at the system that failed this woman, not at her.

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shy-bae t1_j1szebj wrote

Yeah the misogyny in these comments is unsettling but not surprising. Homeless people freeze/starve/overdose all the time and no one cares, but all of a sudden an iNnoCeNt bAbY is involved and everyone is all shocked pikachu face that a young homeless addict in need of immediate post-partum/medical/rehab care maybe didn't make the best decision with regards to its well-being. She probably knew she'd get into legal trouble and get it taken away, which is why she tried to prevent them from finding it.

I just feel terrible that she had to literally give birth outside in the cold but "pro-lifers" can't see the connection between taking care of homeless adults and taking care of any potential children. And now they want to charge her as a felon for endangerment when they didn't care whether she lived or died before. Another example why access to contraception and abortion is healthcare.

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trimolius t1_j1u2eq2 wrote

We fortunately have access to abortions here in NH. We also have baby safe havens.

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invenio78 t1_j1yyx5q wrote

I think people are upset because a child was endangered due to her actions. She had the choice to give birth in a hospital but simply chose not to. Not sure why you are saying "she had to literally give birth outside..." That false. You call 911 and they take you to the hospital, doesn't matter if you are homeless/drug addict/etc.

You make it seem like she was forced to do any of these things. She wasn't, she chose to.

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Wide_Television_7074 t1_j1vhfrs wrote

weird… you sound anti-infant

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shy-bae t1_j1w14vo wrote

I’m just pro-woman and have basic empathy, because she was here first and she probably couldn’t even consent to being pregnant. It’s just wild to me that you can be walking around as a homeless addict and no one cares, then one day you wind up pregnant (maybe from sexual assault as is common in these settlements) and your body does its thing without you getting a say, your body gives birth in horrible circumstances and you’re just trying to survive, then all of a sudden you’re charged as a felon by the same people who were fine with you freezing to death when it was just you.

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derek_morin1 t1_j1y4cpq wrote

Let’s take the newborn out of the situation. Would you be so quick to defend her if she left a one year old to die in a tent? Is that just an extra-late term abortion? Is the situation resulting in its conception relevant at that point?

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shy-bae t1_j1zfoa5 wrote

Yes if you have a one year old, you have plenty of time to have figured something else out or someone else to notice and gotten help.

She had just given birth outside on one of our coldest days of the season while having mental health issues and being an addict. Its hard for people in even the best health/conditions to think properly after birth while in a warm hospital on pain meds and looked after by doctors.

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Maldonian t1_j1zoxqn wrote

She didn’t “have to” give birth outside in the cold. She chose to spend all of her available funds on drugs instead of a home, even during the time she knew the baby was coming. She also chose to get pregnant with no ability or plans for what would happen next.

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HumanWrangler547 t1_j24p8ez wrote

Yikes! Do your research before sticking up for scum!! ... her father is DENNIS ECKERSLEY! SHE HAS ACCESSS TO W.E TF KIND OF HELP SHE COULD EVER NEED! & Her parents have done everything in their power to get her the help and treatment she needs but unfortunately she's not a child anymore and her parents still want her to come back home and get help but she doesn't want to live under their $20 million dollar estate!! She enjoys her lifestyle and wants everyone to know that "homelessness can happen to anyone" and homelessness shouldn't be frowned upon! She thinks it should be embraced & wants to begin a "HOMELESS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS EVENT" & in her word's, "Have it be like the telethon, or a carnival where you pay to get in, or a movie night and the money goes to a housing shelter."

She says that the homeless can do "LANDSCAPING AT A SPECIAL FACILITY JUST FOR THEM, MAYBE PAINT WALLS & NOT PAY RENT" 🙄👌

Her family is actually heartbroken btw!-

Her parents wanted to deliver her a message & let her know that they love her. Allie then responded saying "I know they do". & MAYBE she'll think about giving her father DENNIS ECKERSLEY (Hall of Fame pitcher who earned more than $27 million in his baseball career during the years 1975-1998) a phone call. But he's too obsessed with not wanting her to be homeless and on the streets so she probably won't call. She says she couldn't imagine her father trying to survive on the streets 😒.

She's an ungrateful disgusting pos and I can pretty much guarantee you she'll end up locked up if not this week then probably next week.

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Mangoinmysushi t1_j1t5klb wrote

Give me a break. Are you really turning this into a pro-lifer rant? This woman is a fucking drug addict. What kind of nut case defends this type of crap? She left an infant for dead in the middle of the woods.

She could have gone to the hospital and received care. They have to help her.

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shy-bae t1_j1t65vt wrote

Like you said, she is a drug addict and addicts don’t always make reasonable or sane choices which is part of why they need help.

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Mangoinmysushi t1_j1t783c wrote

She can get help. There’s multiple resources in Manchester where she could get the help she needs, even an abortion. But she has to actually do something. Nobody can force her to do any of this.

A lot of these homeless addicts don’t want any of this assistance and they don’t want help. She doesn’t get a free pass because she’s an addict.

It’s insane that you have more sympathy for a homeless addict then an infant left for dead. Y’all are sick lol

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Bake_jouchard t1_j1uaayb wrote

The baby was found in a different tent by itself. She left the new born infant to die in a tent in the woods while it was 18 degrees outside. I don’t care what her circumstance is there is no scenario where leaving a new born alone in a tent to freeze to death is acceptable.

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Internal_Ring_121 t1_j1u833t wrote

She wasn’t unable . The word your looking for is unwilling .

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Beautiful_Repeat_718 t1_j1vc9wl wrote

This is you, right? Maybe you shouldn't be passing judgement about what people are unwilling to do when you're literally posting photos of fentanyl and blaming where you live and who you surround yourself with as the reason you have a drug problem.

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Internal_Ring_121 t1_j1vt2vi wrote

Yes that is fucking me . I lived in the same tents as these people . I’m not judging anyone I know how they fucking think. Obviously she knew where the baby was . You don’t give birth at a homeless camp without everyone knowing about it . That’s how all of a sudden she knew where the baby was ? And I don’t blame anyone but myself

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pinetreesgreen t1_j1ukny6 wrote

I hope you never have to deal with someone with severe mental health issues. Their ability to make rational decisions can be different from day to day, hour to hour. The article mentions she has gotten help in the past and has a hard time staying on meds. That's how it is for many with severe mental health issues. It's hard to blame her without specific evidence she wanted to kill her baby.

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Internal_Ring_121 t1_j1usbbt wrote

I was homeless myself in those same camps a year to 2 years ago. So I think I know more about what kind of people live down there .

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pinetreesgreen t1_j1uug5i wrote

I'm making a statement about mental health in general, not the homeless camp or this particular woman. It's safe to say not everyone who has severe mental health problems takes their meds or the meds work consistently, I think we can all agree on that. That effects how they react to situations.

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-cochise t1_j1sxkh4 wrote

She was “off” by several hundred yards, I walk my dog in these woods and on the rail trail most days of the week. Whatever she meant to do, the major failure is that she is still able to legally make her own decisions.

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ZacPetkanas t1_j1ug1ao wrote

> She was “off” by several hundred yards

I bet if it was her drug cache she'd know exactly where it was, not somewhere in a hundred yard radius.

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