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itsallbacon t1_iy6k2nd wrote

Frustrating, imagine how it is for the cops who lock him up over and over and over just for judges to let him off. Imagine it makes their whole job seem useless.

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Maldonian t1_iy8flct wrote

I’m sure all of us, at one point or another, have worked hard at our jobs, and then a co worker comes along and undoes our hard work.

I imagine that’s every day for the cops. Must be very frustrating.

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NHGuy t1_iy6kxq6 wrote

Same question to you that I put to u/Maldonian

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itsallbacon t1_iy6o42t wrote

Man I don’t even know. Having them actually serve their sentences to completion may be a good start

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NHGuy t1_iy6o6mv wrote

Agree with you on that one

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smartest_kobold t1_iy7jwg6 wrote

No judge let him off. He pled guilty and served the time.

If you want to give repeat minor offenders life, say it.

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itsallbacon t1_iy7kij4 wrote

He got six months for prostituting a minor instead of 5-7 years.

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smartest_kobold t1_iy7tbth wrote

Sounds like quite a plea. So either the case was weak or the prosecutor thought he had something better to do.

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itsallbacon t1_iy80dbx wrote

Or they were too busy from a massive caseload because repeat offenders keep being released early to offend again but regardless a judge had to agree to the terms of sentencing.

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Maldonian t1_iy85sjn wrote

Exactly. Maybe the courts wouldn’t be so overwhelmed and busy if they’d stop letting the bad guys loose so they can commit more crimes.

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smartest_kobold t1_iy82hgi wrote

If you think prosecutors have a massive caseload, imagine the public defender this guy almost certainly had. Regardless, if the prosecutor has too much work, what the fuck is taking priority over prostituting a minor?

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Maldonian t1_iy85p6w wrote

If he plead guilty, it’s likely because the court gave him a really good deal. Not quite the same as a soft judge letting him off, but it’s still another case of soft judges/courts.

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smartest_kobold t1_iy8c4t2 wrote

Most people plead. That means very little.

Getting a satisfactory plea is most of the prosecutors job and if they can't even do that, that speaks to the quality of the prosecution or the police work collecting evidence.

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Maldonian t1_iy8eq8z wrote

I might be misinformed, but I imagine that people only plead if they think it’s a good deal for them, like any other negotiation.

“If we go to trial and convict you, you’ll get 10 years. But if you plead guilty today, we’ll agree to give you 5 years.”

I can’t imagine anyone would plead guilty and accept the whole 10 years. That’s just not logical.

Good deal for the suspect. And the prosecutor gets to do less work. But not a good deal for society.

If there’s enough evidence for a conviction, maybe it’s about time we start getting convictions and some real sentences.

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smartest_kobold t1_iy8jv06 wrote

>I might be misinformed, but I imagine that people only plead if they think it’s a good deal for them, like any other negotiation.

>“If we go to trial and convict you, you’ll get 10 years. But if you plead guilty today, we’ll agree to give you 5 years.”

>I can’t imagine anyone would plead guilty and accept the whole 10 years. That’s just not logical.

>Good deal for the suspect. And the prosecutor gets to do less work. But not a good deal for society.

Yes, but also no. A trial is unpredictable. The defendant doesn't want a trial because there's a chance they'll get the max. The prosecutor doesn't want a trial because the defendant might walk. The lawyers on both sides are guessing at the probability of every outcome and bargaining. That's most of the job these days.

>If there’s enough evidence for a conviction, maybe it’s about time we start getting convictions and some real sentences.

That's the other sticky thing. The jury is not always making a clear factual determination. You're asking a group of twelve amateurs to come to a consensus about some big gray areas, e.g. intent.

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