pahnzoh t1_ivf6r85 wrote on November 7, 2022 at 3:09 PM

Reply to comment by ThisIsNotTuna in We can't afford Don Bolduc! by DethKnotWurst

I do agree, but it's a collective action problem. A vote for a third party takes away a vote from the lesser of two evil parties as you perceive it. I can't control how others vote.

I personally think the entire system is flawed and routinely say that. I don't think we should be voting in this way at all. But it's a defensive mechanism against the state using it's powers against us. I'm forced to vote for the person who will do that the least if I want my vote to have any effect, if it even does at all.

ThisIsNotTuna t1_ivf8sjg wrote on November 7, 2022 at 3:23 PM

>I'm forced to vote for the person who will do that the least if I want my vote to have any effect, if it even does at all.

I don't know that I agree with this entirely. I don't recall who originally said it. But there's a saying.. "Be the change you want to see".

Look, one day, this system will either be redefined, amended, or obliterated entirely if we're not careful. Obviously, the change can't happen overnight. But I am repulsed by the notion that we're forced into voting in a binary sort of way; which, as history is showing us, isn't exactly working for everyone.

But I dunno. I'm not exactly a political guy, so I'm still learning the more I read up on things. The only thing I am sure of is....we can't keep doing what we've always done and expect a different result.

pahnzoh t1_ivfb1de wrote on November 7, 2022 at 3:39 PM

Oh yes I agree that people voting for either Democrats or Republicans is going to change anything apparently don't pay attention.

I hate politics, but it's basically the idea that people are out there organizing to put rulers in power to use the government to create systems of control and expropriation. Unfortunately that works against us so the only thing you can do as an individual is vote for the people that want to do it less.

And in a system designed with 51% needed to pass legislation, you end up with competing factions like we have today.