natethegreek t1_iuhucny wrote on October 31, 2022 at 1:27 PM

Reply to comment by Hilarias_Glucose_Cup in Dartmouth cancels live event due to fear of protesters by Hilarias_Glucose_Cup

>Again, it is semantics. The agreement was that they were doing the show in partnership with a student group and it was open to the public with no other restrictions. The student group was then removed as sponsor, the college restricted access to students only after tickets were sold and required an opening speech from someone with no association with the event. I believe they also said they would require all questions to be pre-screened. For all intents and purposes they forced the cancellation by adding all the changes.

I could not disagree more about it being semantics, this would be a major piece of information.

Hilarias_Glucose_Cup OP t1_iuhv6xy wrote on October 31, 2022 at 1:34 PM

Think of it like this - you booked a wedding for 200 people with a band, food vendor and cake vendor. Five days before the wedding, the venue calls to tell you the guest limit is changed to 50 people only, you cannot have a band or your own food vendor but they will provide a DJ and food from their own vendor, take it or leave it. Of course you are going to walk away. Technically you cancelled but for all intents the venue put in so many restrictions it forced your hand. It is no different.

natethegreek t1_iuhwlt3 wrote on October 31, 2022 at 1:45 PM

I see your point but lets take it a step further, what is your remedy? Force a private institution to hold an event? That seems like a bad precedent.

Hilarias_Glucose_Cup OP t1_iuhy2hy wrote on October 31, 2022 at 1:56 PM

No, I understand that the college can pretty much do what they want when it comes to on campus events. I guess I'd say in this case, given how close it was to the event that the college should have stayed the course, added some extra security and then saw how it went. I suspect it would have been a big nothing burger as the show is really more about internet bullshit and the impact that cancel culture has on people who have been subjected to it. They are pretty vocal about trans issues but they are more in the Bill Maher school versus coming from a right wing or hateful perspective. Hell one of the hosts is a lesbian van lifer. If that is not enough street cred for coming to Dartmouth, I dont know what is.

Stop_Drop_Scroll t1_iuhwpvn wrote on October 31, 2022 at 1:46 PM

The difference is that you pay for the wedding space. Are these hosts paying to host a show, being paid to host a show, or was it free to host/attend? Kinda make a difference in this comparison.

Hilarias_Glucose_Cup OP t1_iui19k7 wrote on October 31, 2022 at 2:19 PM

I don't see how paying for it matters but you are right in that I don't think there was a contract in place. So assume the venue for the wedding in my example is at a friends backyard for no cost. Same theory applies.