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yo_mama_5000 t1_ir6flhr wrote

Reply to comment by chain_me_up in Bomb threats, credit card fraud: state rep Stacie-Marie Laughton of Nashua by Final_Act6703

Almost had a nice, thoughtful, middle of the road comment there that we could all get behind. Almost.

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chain_me_up t1_ir6fv07 wrote

Not trying to be middle of the road, but I appreciate it anyway. If you had said that to me prior to 2016 I'd probably have agreed and edited it, but it's hard to pretend that the right cares about Americans at all anymore.

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MarcoMontana t1_ir6o8f7 wrote

Democrats care about us? Please show me how?

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chain_me_up t1_ir6sa9v wrote

What do Republicans do for middle class individuals?

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KrissaKray t1_ir72oha wrote

None of them care about us, R OR D. The minute you realize that, the better off you'll be.

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chain_me_up t1_ir73829 wrote

Again, one party hates the middle class and the other at least has some progressives trying to help us. If anything I want a 3rd more left party, American democrats are barely center/right. Isn't it crazy how many other countries have universal healthcare, better education, more vacations, better parental leave, legalized weed, etc? I'd really love to have even some of those things here and Republicans seem to care much more about who is writing checks to them than the average citizen so I'll stick to voting Democrat unless that changes.

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KrissaKray t1_ir79u9u wrote

If you think politicians care about anything other than lining their own pockets… I’ve got ocean front property in Nebraska to sell you.

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glitteryunicornlady t1_ir7bqoq wrote

I am looking to start an Airbnb in Nebraska, particularly the ocean front properties. 😉

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besafenh t1_ir9hesh wrote

The waves were amazing. Hashtag cornsurfing

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bastardosybastitdos t1_ir9e43g wrote

That is so cynical and immature. Try not making blanket statements about any group of people. Sure there are corrupt public servants but that is not their defining characteristic. Your simplistic view makes the world worse.

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KrissaKray t1_ir9e8a8 wrote

God, I wish I could see the world like you do.

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bastardosybastitdos t1_ir9fq60 wrote

It’s called nuance. There are all types of people and all kinds of things motivate them. I believe most people are good and I assume that people come from a good place until their actions prove otherwise.

Stereotypes and prejudice against people based on one aspect of their identify is harmful to all even the person holding those beliefs.

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KrissaKray t1_ir9fv44 wrote

I just go by what I see… and rarely see politicians, especially on the national stage, that care about anything other than their political capital and how far they can go. They speak out both sides of their mouths. I just wish they’d be REAL. Stand for SOMETHING other than what looks to be their own financial or political interests.

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bastardosybastitdos t1_ir9gohb wrote

Bernie Sanders.

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besafenh t1_ir9h989 wrote

😢 No. When Bernie caved instead of fought in 2016, my Berner friends were devastated. The Bern in 2020 was a hateful man towards everyone else in the primary process. As if we owed him a fresh start from the top of his 2016 wave.

Nyet Kulak.

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bastardosybastitdos t1_ir9ho6h wrote

If any of that were true, it still does not make him a corrupt politician only motivated by greed. It makes him someone whose actions you don’t agree with.

It’s undeniable, except perhaps in the outermost echo chambers, that Bernie is a man who stands for something other than his own financial interests.

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besafenh t1_ir9gt51 wrote

Those same words… Written by an awakened person of color in Chicago back in 2016:

“They don’t know us. They don’t care about us. Hell, they don’t even like us, ‘cept every 2 years when they come shuffling back wanting more money and votes.”

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Final_Act6703 OP t1_ir722ln wrote

If you want to see something crazy, take a look at the primary sources from this wiki article:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_under_Democratic_and_Republican_presidents

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MarcoMontana t1_ir778df wrote

Wikipedia is a media site edited by the public!

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HPenguinB t1_ir7c62v wrote

With citations. Citations you can read.

Or just ignore everything that doesn't fit what you want to be true, I guess.

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yo_mama_5000 t1_ir6glfz wrote

Right. I see.

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chain_me_up t1_ir6gof3 wrote

Glad you understand (:

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yo_mama_5000 t1_ir6gtr5 wrote

Well, it’s not so much I understand what you’re saying in your comments. I just understand better who you are.

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chain_me_up t1_ir6h0fy wrote

Even better, I just would like to be paid fairly, have universal healthcare, and rights to bodily autonomy. Feel free to ask anything else (:

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yo_mama_5000 t1_ir6hcws wrote

Ok, why are you smiley faces backwards? Which leads me to how do you hang your toilet paper?

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nicefacedjerk t1_ir6s43x wrote

These are all things I 100% agree with. Would also like to see educational system go to at least college associates degree. However, Dems appear to be more interested in squeezing the shit outa the middle class right now. Expansion of govt, parabolic fed rate hikes, energy importer due to policy shifts before renewables infrastructure is even remotely ready, complete disregard for Supreme Court rulings..etc. I'm not saying Reps are any better. Both parties have created a cycle of failure and mediocrity in which they just play the blame game.

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chain_me_up t1_ir6skx1 wrote

How are democrats doing that? They're the party that at least acknowledges climate change, argues for raising wages, and isn't in denial about an election being "stolen". Maybe if Republicans stopped shooting down every single attempt that is made of helping the working class we could actually have some awesome social programs and safety nets.

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MarcoMontana t1_ir6o3y4 wrote

What do you do that you are not paid fairly?

I was a homeless 16 yr old kid walking the streets of Lowell mass, and managed without Internet, College, EBT, Food Stamps, WIC, Snap to learn a skill and get out of the gutter and now make a decent living!

How is it you with Internet and 100's of avenues and ways to better yourself for free cannot demand a higher salary?

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chain_me_up t1_ir6t251 wrote

How much did houses cost? How many hours did you work? What did you do for work? What about groceries? Cars and gas? I make above minimum wage and it's still very difficult. There's also this cool thing called degree bloat which is showing in full now because entry level positions are demanding multiple degrees/years of experience to work for minimum wage. Sorry people have actually learned their worth and don't want to work for 15 bucks an hour to get yelled at by Karens or micromanaged by a shitty boss.

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MarcoMontana t1_ir77on5 wrote

You are asking me a bunch of question without once answering mine?

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What is it you do that you cannot get paid fairly?

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chain_me_up t1_ir787a2 wrote

It depends on what you deem for fair pay. My mindset is anyone working should be making enough money to afford housing, bills, etc. without struggling. I work as an office admin for a car dealership and make a few bucks above minimum wage hourly, but I'm still struggling to find reasonable rentals and it's impossible to save up for a down payment when most of my check is going to expenses. No one that is working should struggle to survive.

Edit to add: feel free to answer my questions now then. My dad was a straight C student and worked very hard to end up as a department head for a large company, but trying to do that in today's world is impossible unless you have connections or several degrees.

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glitteryunicornlady t1_ir7c393 wrote

Social work 👍

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chain_me_up t1_ir7c9z7 wrote

I admire those who do social work so much, but I definitely don't have the mental health strength needed for that line of work (:

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glitteryunicornlady t1_ir7cmup wrote

Thank you! I have suffered major burnout and depression doing that line of work. I left my last job, and keep getting offers for others in the field, but I really need higher pay/ lower case loads to sustain my own mental health and take care of my own family.

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MarcoMontana t1_ir79r52 wrote

Also most people are entitled to have the best of the best all the time, you all need to learn to live below your means not above it!

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MarcoMontana t1_ir79g3w wrote

Thats not the case, I spent years working my craft to get paid enough to support a family, I roomed with others and learned what it was to be an adult.

The premise that as soon as you work you should be making $70k is preposterous! And I would suggest don't have a family and kids if you cannot afford to. We need some personal Responsibility back.

There are Adult jobs, skilled, experienced jobs, and teenager jobs! If someone is an adult 30-40+ years old working at Wendy's they made horrible choices and decisions in life and its not societies fault! These low skill jobs are meant for teens to make money and acclimate themselves into the working fields, and have some cash for Summer break!

While my friends were getting high, and shitfaced I was homeless sleeping in the Bridge Street abandoned Mills, sleeping in ATMS and working doing anything i could to learn skills!

I sacrificed partying and being cool for my skillset, at 25 I bought a house albeit a really really really shitty house, I had a home! I had no furniture for a year and slept on a air mattress, my son, girlfriend and I ate Macaroni and cheese for all our meals, and we watched a 13 inch black in white tv for 1 year, until I got a raise at work allowing me to do better for them!

If you want adult pay, you must do an adult job, the paperboy doesn't make $70k a year either...

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chain_me_up t1_ir79qss wrote

This is a very boomer comment and its no longer worth engaging with you. No one should have to do what you just described as your life. Also, no such thing as a low skill job if those people missing (take a look at every fast food place hiring right now or all the ones that had to close) means the business fails. Really gross mindset lmao

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MarcoMontana t1_ir7abn5 wrote

I am not a boomer, and Ad Hominem doesn't strengthen your arguments! The fact you refuse to tell me what you do acknowledges to me you do some low skill bullshit job, and its not societies fault you chose not to better yourself or learn a skill or career!

Perhaps you can whine more and hope for change instead of actually "Changing"

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chain_me_up t1_ir7baeg wrote

You literally didn't read my comment LMAO I said what I did for work in my comment earlier.....please use your reading comprehension skills. It's also none of your business, but I'm a student at the same time as I work a full time job. Every working individual should be able to afford a livable situation. It's honestly depressing that you struggled and wish others the same bad fate.

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glitteryunicornlady t1_ir7cbc8 wrote

I worked 3 jobs through college, and work 3 now. Too bad nothing has changed. The wages certainly haven't. The cost of living has.

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chain_me_up t1_ir7cl7k wrote

I'm so sorry you had to do that and I couldn't agree more. I don't think anyone should ever have to have 2+ jobs to survive.

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MarcoMontana t1_ir7auvi wrote

Also lets add the fact you cannot "Engage" with me because you don't like my answers is probably indicative of one of your issues holding you back financially....

Good Luck!

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glitteryunicornlady t1_ir7c0df wrote

Well good for you! I do mean that, but you are not everyone else in those situations. That's where this argument always falls flat on people that can think of others besides themselves.

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MarcoMontana t1_irip9ul wrote

Think of others?.. How is thinking of others going to fix Millennials not doing the work to learn skills to do adult jobs? These feelings comments are preposterous and are based on emotions and not facts!

There are jobs paying big money, but you all want to do menial task kid jobs and be paid big money….. Sorry kids if you can be replaced by another mouth breather you’re never going to make a living wage ever.

You need to do the work and hone your craft get experienced and then you have a commodity you can be paid for.

All these down votes because you disagree with me is also indicative of the sad emotional state you are all in unable to handle the truth

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glitteryunicornlady t1_irjn9ql wrote

😆😆 dude I've been working since I was 15, and I'm a millennial. I have a degree, I have many skills as well. We're not a monolith.

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MarcoMontana t1_irs0uiv wrote

Great to hear, my son is 32 hes also a Millennial and hes got a Bachelors in Criminal Law and 6 years in the Air Force, you guys are out their just very few....

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glitteryunicornlady t1_is5m1kn wrote

Well you said people raised by Gen X'ers...my parents are Boomers. Lol

I think I was 15 when I was told if I wanted anything, I have to get in myself. I know that's certainly not everyone though. My son's father, on the other hand, has had everything given to him by his parents, and he has no inclination to actually work or do anything for himself.

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MarcoMontana t1_irs192y wrote

Most millennial's I see daily, want to be Tiktok stars or Youtube stars! They give no shits about the future and want everything instantly...

Anything thats hard they don't want to do it!

I blame bad Gen Xers for spoiling their kids!

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HPenguinB t1_ir7c1tb wrote

It IS a middle of the road post. If one side veers wildly to the insane, the middle of the road moves. Hold the party you vote of accountable.

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yo_mama_5000 t1_ir9pc4s wrote

Been some wildly insane stuff from the left too lately.

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