Jalapeno popper fans are going to be mildly disappointed.

But where will I get my overcooked 75% lean burgers now?

Standing up for workers while also hurting a company that has ruined a ton of local restaurants? Seems like a win/win.

Mozzarella sticks too

>ruined a ton of local restaurants

I'm interesting in learning more about this, can you point me to some articles/resources/etc.?

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Keep fighting the good fight.

And colleges

I’ve been on a strike from Sysco since Thong Song came out

You cheeky devil

Thong song...cheeky....seems like you're the cheeky one u/Salty9Volt lol

Definitely not hotly disappointed

They are suppliers to a lot of restaurants too. This could become a serious problem for small restaurants.

They deliver gross food anyway.

We’ve got some of them on route 125 near epping, I wave to them on my way to work everyday!

I came here to ask this. I couldn't figure out how a food delivery company could ruin local restaurants.

Oh girl… that dress is so scandalous…

Sysco is HUGE. Their 2021 annual investors report said this:

>We estimate that we serve about 17% of the approximately $230 billion annual foodservice market in the U.S., as estimated by Technomic, Inc., for calendar year 2020. Technomic projects the market size to increase to approximately $285 billion by the end of calendar 2021. We also serve certain international geographies that vary in size and amount of market share. We believe, based upon industry trade data, that our sales to the U.S. and Canada food-away- from-home industry were the highest of any foodservice distributor during fiscal 2021. While comprehensive industry statistics are not available, we believe that, in most instances, our operations in the U.S. and Canada are among the leading distributors of food and related non-food products to foodservice customers in those trading areas. We believe our competitive advantages include our sales consultants; our diversified product base, which includes quality-assured Sysco brand products; our service reliability; the ancillary services we provide to our customers, such as business reviews and menu analysis; and our multi-regional presence in North America and Europe, combined with a large geographical footprint of multi-temperature warehouses, which mitigates some of the impact of regional economic declines that may occur over time.

Feeding 17% of Americans and likely 30-40% of New England (there are regional strong players) is massive. This is not just a couple of restaurants and school cafeterias. Food sitting in warehouses and not being delivered to restaurants will impact all of us. I'm not saying the workers shouldn't strike but the regional delivery drivers who pick and deliver the food will cripple a lot of restaurants who need to find the same ingredients at the same price point from other suppliers just to build their core menus.

Crushing the competition out, then changing products to be inferior and more expensive.

Because their shit is bottom of the barrel IQF garbage. If we ever had a Fallout situation Sysco foods, Twinkies, and cockroaches would be the only things left to eat.

Source: worked in a college that used Sysco.

Sysco is our supplier at work and there is already plans for shutdown if we can't get product in a timely fashion. Not that I'm complaining since I hate this fucking place and some days off would give me a chance to look elsewhere.

Wow that’s a big one. Just about every pizza/sub shop in the area probably relies on them for at least some product

Good for them. Hope they get what they’re asking for.

Average pay for the drivers is over 110k per year with generous benefits.

Sysco is my partner’s supplier. He told me on Monday they flew a bunch of their drivers up from the South to work as scabs. Fuck Sysco.

And? Have you driven truck?

Edit: And that is not even ture

sounds like leverage, all power to the workers

Right from the article:

>A Sysco spokesperson told News 9 in an email that Sysco Boston drivers are making an average of $110,000 this year. The company said it's offering a 25% wage increase over the life of the next contract.

That's a lot of money for driving a truck, and 25% is a hefty wage increase.

It's fair for everybody to walk off the job but it's not fair for them to hire new people.

Ok got it.

This is honestly where the union issues start to lose me. Like I support collective bargaining and the right of the workers to strike- putting more power in the hands of the workers is undeniably a good thing. BUT those workers don't have an inalienable right to that job. If they all collectively walk off, it might make business sense to come back to the negotiating table and work something out, but maybe it makes sense to let them all go and start over. I don't agree with forcing the business to retain them.

I have never understood the use of the term scabs in this situation. I know its a common derogatory term for people who fill in for striking union workers. But when you have a wound a scab is necessary for healing. It just make no sense for union workers to call them scabs.

What do you mean? Isn't that what's taking place?

Fuck yeah

Restaurants order their raw products from companies like Sysco, called broadliners. In New England, the big broadliners are Sysco, PFG, US Foods, and some other ones that are smaller in size.

If Sysco’a delivery drivers aren’t driving, then restaurants aren’t getting raw product to make their dishes, which means they don’t have dishes to sell to the public. Also, many restaurants are contracted with their broadliners, so it’s not like a Sysco customer can just pick up the phone and call PFG and place their order.

Source: 12 years managing restaurants

Oh, a Sysco spokesperson say they are making that much. Ok, and they pay by mile. So, how many miles did they have to drive to make that? How long are they on the road for? Does that number include other compensation?

Drives like a truck, what what.

Sysco didn’t hire new people; they flew already-contracted workers from a different part of the country. Sure, they have the right to do so, and it’s great for them because the wages for those workers are lower than the wages of the ones striking. The service is still shit, but so is the service from pretty much everyone, and it’s what we as a country allow corporations to get away with in the name of their profits over our livelihoods. Corporate oligarchy is ruining this country. You can think that’s ok; I can think it’s a system rigged to keep employees from being able to successfully fight for better benefits. Something we used to be able to do, and amazingly we had a large middle class and significantly smaller income discrepancies between the poorest and the wealthiest. Best of luck to the strikers. Hope they succeed despite Sysco’s efforts.

Assuming you even believe "company spokesman", $110k in compensation and benefits seems pretty fair for 70-90 hour weeks.

I'm sure if the company was lying, the union would be all over it. The pubic backlash the company would face wouldn't be worth the risk. Instead, they'd use vague terminology like "compensation is comparable to similar jobs within the region".

The Sysco trucks I see in the area would require a CDL, which limits the amount of hours that the drivers can be on the road. For that amount of money, I don't think they have much to complain about.

100%. Also unions really aren't needed much these days in the US. Just look at food service workers wages going up like crazy given the labor shortage, no union required.

You base your opinion on a lot of assumptions. Glassdoor says that drivers start anywhere from $53k and $79k. Indeed says they average about $78K. Anyone that takes Sysco's word for it is a fool.

Anyone that takes data from sites that don't have any access to the company's payroll information is a fool. Glassdoor's data is mostly self-reported. Now why might people enter low wages? I wonder..

When the term came in to fashion, people weren't too interested in the beneficial healing properties of scabs. They were ugly and unclean, and closely associated with sores and diseases like Syphillis. Scab as an insult was more broad until the turn of the 18th century labor movement. Stephanie Smith put it well: "Just as a scab is a physical lesion, the strikebreaking scab disfigures the social body of labor—both the solidarity of workers and the dignity of work."

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I disagree about not being needed, I think they absolutely still have their place, as it's not just about wages.

Glass door and indeed think my job pays $52k per year. I can assure you if that were even remotely close I wouldn't be doing my job.

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Try most restaurants too.

Sysco has multiple tiers of food quality. Places like Copper Door and others use them as well.

True. Sysco also supplies other restaurant items too I believe. I know in a past life as a GM at a food/entertainment space we used them for everything from chicken fingers to forks and cups and ice cream cones.

Exactly.

They supply nursing homes, hospitals, and assisted living facilities too.

My grandmother is at one and I am wondering if this will effect her.

Does it say average for your job? Because you might make more in your area then the average.

Fucking morons. You signed the contract so you do the work you don't get to go on strike if you want a raise do better work and ask for it but if you sign a contract for employment you do what you signed for.

The contract expired last week.

Then they wouldn't be employed

Do you have data for those hours and that the $110k includes benefits? Average compensation is pretty easy to get and most likely accurate.

As I understand it, these drivers get paid pretty well considering the requirements of the job is a drivers license for truck driving (which can be obtained in a 6 week truck driving program). Not too bad for somebody with a only a high school degree compared to other work.

If a company spokesperson says they "get" $110k, you'd be a fool to assume anything is left out. A spokesman's one job is to make the workers look as well compensated as possible.

They're working 12 to 14 hours a day. I'm assuming a six or seven day week.

Actually, the company has legal obligations when it makes statements about employee costs as if it lies, it can be fraud against the share holders. So it is highly likely that those official quoted numbers are correct.

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Also, drivers are legally limited in the number hours and how long they can drive.

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https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-service/summary-hours-service-regulations#:~:text=Drivers%20are%20allowed%20to%20extend%20the%2010-hour%20maximum%20driving,adverse%20driving%20conditions%20are%20encountered.

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Listen, I'm not "supporting" either side, but you shouldn't just make things up. If you have real data that supports falsehoods the company is making, present it. I don't know, it is a little hard to feel sorry for a salary of $110k with good benefits when people with the same education level are making near minimum wage.

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Truck driving seems to be a great avenue to make 6 figures without a fancy and expensive college degree.

Just do betterer.

>Actually, the company has legal obligations when it makes statements about employee costs as if it lies, it can be fraud against the share holders. So it is highly likely that those official quoted numbers are correct.

I never said otherwise. But a spokesman is going to pick biggest of mean, median, or mode and include all the bennies. Literally the job.

>Also, drivers are legally limited in the number hours and how long they can drive.

70-85 +/- just driving per average a week seems doable within regulations. That's not necessarily counting time/labor unloading.

"Mean" is the average,... not a median or mode.

The regulations strictly say 60 hours in 7 days or 70 hours in 8 maximum. So I don't know where you are coming up with those numbers. And that's a maximum. Where are you getting that over 60 hours per week would be attainable or 70 in an 8 consecutive period.

I think you are stating your opinion as fact or regulation. Please provide links to actual regulations or data if you think these numbers are inaccurate.

You have a very firm grasp on how the relationship between employees/unions/employers work hu?

it should be employees/employers unions are literally socialist programs and idk why we have labor day to celebrate it each year.

>"Mean" is the average,... not a median or mode.

It's probably a mean, but you probably couldn't be successfully sued for defrauding the shareholders if you used the most flattering.

>The regulations strictly say 60 hours in 7 days or 70 hours in 8 maximum. So I don't know where you are coming up with those numbers. And that's a maximum. Where are you getting that over 60 hours per week would be attainable or 70 in an 8 consecutive period.

FMCSA Interstate Truck Driver's Guide to Hours of Service March 2015

"If you follow the 70-hour/8-day limit and work 14 hours per day for 5 days in a row, you will have been on duty for 70 hours. You would not be able drive again until you drop below 70 hours worked in an 8-day period. However, if your company allows you to use the 34-hour restart provision, you would have driving time available immediately after 34 consecutive hours off duty. You would then begin a new period of 8 consecutive days and have 70 hours available"

"The use of a “valid” 34-hour restart resets a driver’s “weekly” hours back to zero. In addition, an individual may perform other on-duty tasks, such as loading or unloading and paperwork, after reaching the 60/7 or 70/8 hour limits."

I work for a company operating in new england only. 89 people hold the same position as me. We all make the exact same salary.

Our USFoods rep delivered our 100 piece order in a pick up truck in Portsmouth due to all their drivers being pulled to Boston because customers are giving them dbl orders while Sysco can’t deliver.

That sounds like an interesting job. What job do you do where only 89 people in the US do that job? What does your company do that is unique to NE that they don't have similar companies in the US with workers doing the same job?

They deliver to theme parks and hospitals all the way up to medium-nice restaurants (like someone else mentioned, Copper Door, 30-40% of New England). I bet you eat their food often. There's levels to this.

And hospitals.

There is nothing flattering or unflattering about a statistic. It's a number. The mean (average) salary is $110k.

But if you mean relative salary to other professions, truck drivers are way above. And they are way way above when adjusted for education level prerequisite. I don't know why you make it seem like these guys are making minimum wage? What other profession makes this kind of money without only a high school diploma and such good job security? Not a lot.

There may be some exceptions, but the rules linked are pretty clear so it's not that restart rule is utilized constantly, it would not make any sense. Also, at the end of the day, it's up to the driver how much they want to work. Most likely those doing maximum hours are doing it because they want to earn more money. And at that hourly, who would blame them.

But it's beside the point as you are not arguing that work hours should be limited (and they aren't either), they just want more money.

So question, how much should a high school equivalent job earn in your eyes? Obviously low 7 figures is not enough and the fact that they guys are earning more than teachers, nurses, etc... who have college level requirements as comparison confirms that.

Keep licking that boot, maybe they'll pick you to lead the pack next.

I'm not licking any boot and neither should you so stop suckling on mommy government

Ah yes the boot of working class solidarity and overworked people exercising their combined power. Delicious, you should try some.

They flew a bunch of guys from the south to come work here. This is fact. Had a fella from Virginia deliver my truck yesterday.

Your rep is amazing. Lol

You're getting down voted by people who have never worked in a restaurant. 90% of restaurants that order from them make it a point to not order certain items. Any casual fine place in NH that orders from them gets strictly dry goods and poultry. They truly have some of the worst product I've ever seen.

He came thru! ✌️

I also work the industry in Portsmouth so I can assure you this person went above and beyond for you my G. Wicked cool to hear it, struggle's real

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not sure what this has to do with industrial food processing.

Les see how they do once it snows

The drivers who fuckin deliver the food? Are you paying attention bro? Lol

"deliver my truck"

It snows in Virginia too...

Not like it does here. Down there they'll shut a whole town over a dusting.

Yes... They deliver trucks full of food to restaurants? Are you plugged in bud?

yeah i am douchebag

We can all tell you're a douche bag my guy. It's cool. Do better next time your moron showed up today.

don't call me "my guy" again. we are not friends.

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Sysco chose to cut healthcare for supply chain workers during a supply chain crisis despite a 159% increase in profits last year.

ok bud

We got a full tractor trailer today ✌️

unrelated and not OP, but I wonder if this is the first ever unintentional/unaware reference to the buddy/guy/friend bit from South Park.

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My partner’s a mid-level manager for a multi-state company and makes less than $50k a year. He hates Sysco but has no say in their supplier. His CEO, who bought a new Porsche a month into the pandemic, is definitely profiting off it though.

It sucks. Food prices are definitely going to rise everywhere. It is already a nightmare trying to source ingredients reliably as it is.

I no longer work with Sysco, but when I did order from them I also did double orders (order for two weeks at a time instead of one). That way if Sysco was out of something I had a lot of time to fix the problem, or if Sysco messed up the order, or didnt show up, etc.

Why don’t you learn something about the agreements they had in place instead of being a confident “moron”. Renegotiates are explicitly contemplated at specific points. Nobody is five here.

Great! All the people complaining about the strike are making a strong argument for increased immigration! Good on you!

I guess you have no concept of labor relations or any knowledge of American industrial history. But please let us know what you think…

The lack of unions is the reason that real wages have materially underperformed real productivity over the last 40 years.

Speak English

in this case the mean will overweight the higher end of the pay scale (the most senior, most overtime etc.)

Median is more appropriate imho.

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Telling…

I can tell that you think you are making a point. It’s cute!

However your point is a pro-union, not anti-immigration point. Guess you can’t see that.

“When it came to how the union was run and its immigration stands, no American union or labor leader embraced undocumented immigrants and immigration reform earlier and more consistency than the UFW and Cesar Chavez. “

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Yes, as companies were bringing in undocumented workers with no market power who they could abuse. Aint capitalism grand!

Glad to see you are backing this strike 100%! That’s a refreshing change from you!

“Like every legitimate union and labor leader, the United Farm Workers and Cesar Chavez strongly opposed strikebreaking by anyone, no matter who they were or where they were from. Farm worker walkouts would have quickly been won in the fields if growers hadn’t recruited strikebreakers (or scabs) from outside their companies—and increasingly undocumented workers from outside the country—to take the jobs of striking field workers, forcing the UFW into bitter and protracted strikes and boycotts.”

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You don't know that without access to the data set.

Also, they are negotiating for the same contract. So pretty much all the drivers have access to the same pay scale and benefits.

It’s entirely possible to care about those things and still care more about the people that are being fucked over so the CEO can get 4 extra points on their bonus.

We have to use 4 vendors- we are really busy and fortunate.

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You mean a scab !