YBMExile t1_jbe349k wrote on March 8, 2023 at 11:36 AM

Reply to comment by SoWhatHappened2U in Transgender students at center of new bills in New Hampshire by flounder19

Reasonable guard rail? It’s not like school is passing out hormone suppressants and booking surgeries. Schools acknowledge that trans people exist in our society.

This is about using preferred pronouns, maybe reasonable bathroom access, and not being hateful bigots. Is it really that much to expect?

SoWhatHappened2U t1_jbevlqf wrote on March 8, 2023 at 3:34 PM

If someone needs a bill to state that teachers can't lie to you about your own child then no... the right guardrails are not yet in place. Some teachers and school officials are doing more than acknowledging trans people, to state otherwise is either naive or disingenuous. You can't have a real discussion on this if you don't concede there are real concerns and issues on both sides. Everyone that disagrees with you is not a hateful bigot.

YBMExile t1_jbex2tq wrote on March 8, 2023 at 3:44 PM

Please be specific. What exactly are teachers/administrators doing wrong right now, in the year of our lord 2023, for NH (or American) public school students, as it pertains to trans students. You can cite a real life example in the news or from your own kids, if you have them, or ???. Seriously, if you don't want to be perceived as a hateful bigot, say something substantive. We'll wait.

SoWhatHappened2U t1_jbfvyai wrote on March 8, 2023 at 7:26 PM

Again... Not productive to label anyone with a different opinion a hateful bigot. If you want to troll then I guess troll on. As for examples there are multiple lawsuits across the country where parents were excluded from decisions relating to a child's gender at school. Not including parents in discussions and decisions that affect a child's emotional and physical health is wrong. I am a parent with children in NH public schools so yeah I have skin in the game. Any new law that puts in a guard rail to prevent that is resonating with parents. They just don't want to discuss it with you because you immediately label them bigots, fascists or whatever.

YBMExile t1_jbfwst3 wrote on March 8, 2023 at 7:31 PM

No, YOU put the "hateful bigot" word in my mouth. I'm trying to add substance to a discussion that is often too vague and too loaded to be useful. Aside from that, can you give an example? Even a hypothetical. "not including parents in discussions" doesn't really say anything. "guardrails" doesn't say anything. If this is meaningful to you, and you have skin in the game, can you please say more about what you realistically think this bill addresses? What wrongs are corrected?