Submitted by BobRobot77 t3_10plr0n in movies
Main_Tip112 t1_j6lcna3 wrote
Reply to comment by Buhos_En_Pantelones in Why Film Festivals Are Steering Clear of Controversial Movies by BobRobot77
I think censorship implies that a legal authority is determining what can or cannot be expressed. It's coming from above. This is way murkier, in that you have a wierd ass Twitter chorus expressing their anger (which ironically is probably a vocal minority and not necessarily representative of popular opinion) and artists/distributors are now learning to not to push boundaries for fear of the backlash.
Not thinking of any movie in particular when I say that, but yeah, it seems like a bummer. Then again, movies have always faced criticism and backlash, historically to the point of legal ramifications for creating smut and video nasties. So it sucks, but I wonder if it's a necessary part of the overall evolution of the industry. Racist and sexist shit was plenty pervasive in movies for a long time, so maybe the pendulum unfortunately needs to swing the other direction a bit before it settles into an ideal resting position.
Don't ask me. I'm stoned.
Gyaru_Molester t1_j6m0p3l wrote
This idea that something can only be censorship if it's a legal/government authority doing it is very odd and runs completely counter to history. This stuff is absolutely censorship.
Butch_Beth t1_j6n9fbn wrote
Relative to the Hays Code, or even the MPAA, we're in an era where organised concentrated media censorship is declining. If a film wouldn't be made a major studio it can happen elsewhere, if a film can't get a certificate, there's a chance you'll still get to see it somewhere. Also you can get films that have been banned or released with extensive edits, illegally or otherwise. As we've had more technology to copy and distribute media it's simply become harder and harder to restrict it, which is all that censorship is.
A few years ago I went to a festival where a film depicted the fictionalised murder of 3 real life police officers, it showed their crimes, then them getting off without consequence and then dramatisations of them being killed. That film was never going to show at Cannes, it was fantastic, but the subject matter was incompatible with their brand and the brands that pay for the festival. You can't play film with such a direct call to action at SXSW, they want to exist next year.
The sponsors associated with large film festivals will pull out if programmers get too controversial. It really sucks, but this is always what film festivals have been like. The answer is to go to more interesting smaller festivals, as when it comes down to it, none of this stuff is going on Netflix.
There's like a larger conversation to be had about how scared brands are of being abused or called out on twitter, but the reality of it is that while we have social media, people will continue to post stupid takes on it. And sometimes when someone posts 'TIL: Coke-a-cola supported this film where a dog is killed' you never get the context and coke never supports that festival again.
reckoner23 t1_j6njj36 wrote
So if you have a boss that's threatening to fire you unless you pull your movie sounds like censorship to me.
ACID_pixel t1_j6lmx7g wrote
I’m replying because I’m also stoned and it took me a minute to read this.
I agree.
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