FinaglingFox OP t1_j5k0xg7 wrote on January 23, 2023 at 3:46 PM

Reply to comment by Defiant-Document4027 in Why zombies and most zombie movies and shows are driving me insane! by FinaglingFox

I hear your point and I don't think it's a lack of suspension of disbelief. When you set up your rules for your in movie/show universe. In this case zombies and their juices are infectious. It completely breaks the magic if people in said production don't actually have to abide by those rules.

Defiant-Document4027 t1_j5k1pai wrote on January 23, 2023 at 3:51 PM

Off topic but...

>suspension of disbelief

I almost typed that instead of "suspension of belief," but that phrase always has bothered me. It doesn't make sense. If you are going to immerse yourself in the movie and make a commitment and buy in to all the illogical stuff, aren't you suspending BELIEF? Seems like suspending DISBELIEF would be the opposite and would make you more critical of the facts

poo-rag t1_j5k73az wrote on January 23, 2023 at 4:26 PM

Belief would be blindly following something without critical thought.

So suspending the ability to believe would entail you being critical of plot points, etc. As you would be unwilling or unable to see the film as it is being presented

Suspending disbelief means you would be in a state of willingness to believe. So you would accept what you are being shown. You are suspending doubt

Disbelief = critical thought of the presented narrative Belief = acceptance of the presented narrative

Does that help?

Defiant-Document4027 t1_j5k85hc wrote on January 23, 2023 at 4:32 PM

Mmm... aybe. Seems to make sense. But I'm running on just a few hours' sleep in the last two days, so I'm going to let it sink in a little bit. I'll get back to you :)

lucia-pacciola t1_j5k7i6r wrote on January 23, 2023 at 4:28 PM

> It completely breaks the magic

Given the popularity of zombie movies, I'd say that it clearly does not break the magic for the vast majority of zombie movie enjoyers. A problem you personally have with movies is not necessarily a problem with the movies themselves. If it were, those movies would not be very successful. Moviemakers would be taking note and trying to find other ways to tell those stories, with other tropes and conventions that the viewing public was more likely to enjoy.

It used to be commonplace to have a musical number in a movie. Drama, action, didn't matter. At some point, the story would stop, and someone would sing a song. This happens even in war movies like The Guns of Navarone. Nowadays, that kind of thing doesn't entertain moviegoers, and moviemakers have largely dropped the trope.

Maybe someday the same thing will happen to your zombie juices dilemma, but at the moment it seems more like a you problem than a zombie movie problem.