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GetFreeCash t1_j2ayac8 wrote

Reply to comment by SomeDuderr in One off Bond movies: Can it work? by djalekks

>The experiment with Craig and his decades-long lusting for Vesper was... interesting? But ultimately not worth dedicating 6 (?) movies to.

five movies - and I have no proof, but I would bet a lot of money that the plan back in the Casino Royale days was NOT to have Bond mourning the girlfriend he knew for a month, for fifteen years. the movie even ends in a way that would seemingly lend itself to Bond becoming the character we know from the first 20 movies.

it just so happens that they struck gold with the Bond/Vesper relationship (and with Craig and Green's chemistry) and decided, unwisely, to keep bringing it up in the subsequent movies as part of the emphasis on making everything a Personal Vendetta™ to Bond.

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ads7w6 t1_j2b5ckj wrote

I think they freaked out after Quantum wasn't really a hit and pivoted. I was a big fan of the direction they were going with those movies (even though Quantum had its shortcomings due to the writer's strike) but then really turned off by Skyfall and Spectre.

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Glittering_Egg_9196 t1_j2bq7fy wrote

Quantum is a direct sequel to the Vesper story from Casino Royale. Skyfall more or less ignores that whole thing and is standalone (other than M). Spectre is where they became obsessed with continuity.

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Rougarou1999 t1_j2c36zo wrote

>Spectre is where they became obsessed with continuity.

That was mainly due to the studio finally regaining the rights to use SPECTRE and Blofeld, and, rather than put time and effort into building them up as threat, they used them immediately as the antagonists, which led to the Craig-era self-referential retcons to make SPECTRE relevant.

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Glittering_Egg_9196 t1_j2c6dl9 wrote

I feel like it would have been okay to use him immediately without the "author of all your pain" nonsense. Hell, even that might have been tolerable without appropriating the joke brothers twist from Goldmember as the big dramatic reveal.

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Rougarou1999 t1_j2c6q5j wrote

Trying to tie the villains of Spectre back to the previous few movies was a move that I cannot understand why the writers thought it would work. It makes little narrative sense, especially when they already built up Quantum as Craig’s SPECTRE-esque organization.

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nautilator44 t1_j2ea1k9 wrote

I still don't know what happened in Quantum. I'm 70% sure the camera guy was throwing punches. I still have whiplash. Whoever invented that kind of camera work needs to be slapped. Hard.

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