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ML523 t1_j2egn4b wrote

You can say some of his films are overrated, but that doesn’t mean that his films aren’t subjectively considered better by almost everyone.

Also, for all of Avatars faults, they’re still way better movies than the travesty that was every transformers movie but the 1st.

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DoomWad t1_j2ejunj wrote

This. Michael Bay movies are really hard to watch

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FarFromHome t1_j2elzga wrote

They’re just so very very dumb. Like insultingly dumb. And I’m not even that smart.

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Salvzeri t1_j2ekhg5 wrote

I don't think anyone would argue against the idea that James Cameron at least is trying to tell a story. I don't think anyone would argue that Michael Bay is telling a story.

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P0J0 t1_j2epiag wrote

Isn't it worse that James Cameron is actually trying to tell a story with the Avatar movies?

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drgnrbrn316 t1_j2eohkp wrote

The first isn't all that great on a rewatch either. I can at least remember the plot of Avatar. Transformers 1 was about a pair of glasses, a box that turns things into robots, and Megan Fox being attractive. Anthony Anderson also ate a plate of donuts for some reason.

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bibliographyfreak t1_j2emiii wrote

Thousand percent agree. I think the case could be pretty easily made that neither Avatar is “mediocre.” The plot is tired but overall as a cinematic experience it undeniably hits some really high notes.

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