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Impromark t1_j2dedn4 wrote
I was more taken out of the film when they showed the Mona Lisa as being a canvas. The Mona Lisa was painted on wood!
Anyway, Klear was one of several science fictioney elements to the story that didn’t make sense, and likely wasn’t meant to have too much thought put into it. The whole place was a Bond Villain’s lair anyway, why not have a Bond Vilain’s techno-macguffin while you’re at it in addition to the Bond alumnus actors?
mrhawkinson t1_j2deklu wrote
You’d have to be a very wealthy idiot to pay a zillion dollars to rent a fake Mona Lisa…
watakushi t1_j2dlhs4 wrote
I bet this was also completely intentional from Rian Johnson, with the attention to detail he has in these KO movies, he can't have missed that. Just another proof Bron is, as Blanc would put it, SO DUMB! xD
ihavetwelvesads OP t1_j2dpw7o wrote
I prefer if the painting were real, makes the ending so much more incredible
thelandsman55 t1_j2dqdz2 wrote
I don’t think gotcha-ing him with burning the Mona Lisa really works, it also cheapens the other interpretation of the ending which is that knowing who’s to blame can’t overcome huge power imbalances and sometimes the only way to achieve the barest recognition or catharsis is through violence.
Awesomocity0 t1_j2dq689 wrote
TIL. I've seen the Mona Lisa in person and didn't even realize.
sjfiuauqadfj t1_j2dvrqv wrote
the one thing that took me out of the movie was the idea that the squad knew each other before any of them got big and hung out at the same bar
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PM_Me_Your_NMR_Data t1_j2dow0q wrote
The line that Bron spat out sounded like some PR shit, what with making it from seawater. But storing hydrogen inside of a crystal isn't that far off. That's one of the main areas of research for metal-organic frameworks (MOFs). MOFs have incredibly high surface areas (+1000 m^(2) / g), and their linkers can be tuned to preferentially attract certain gasses. That being said, this is usually done under incredibly high pressure. Furthermore, MOFs can be very sensitive to shock, causing void collapses and loss of surface area. This could explain the hesitation lionel had about it, but they never get into exact detail in the story about what it is, so take this as just one sci-fi plausible explanation.
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I found it incredibly on point; an idiot billionaire who thinks he's an expert disregards the expertise of leading scientists to rush a dangerous product to market.
thelandsman55 t1_j2dqns9 wrote
The comments Lionel and others made strongly suggested that the crystals are just a transport medium, and that everything powered by Klear would be powered through insufficiently retrofitted natural gas lines.
OniOdisCornukaydis t1_j2dm0js wrote
I just saw Elon wearing an Edward Norton suit.
Although the real Elon is more cartoonish.
haaaaaairy1 t1_j2dnuy8 wrote
When blanc went on that tirade about how bron was just an idiot trying to act like a genius.. I immediately thought of musk lol.
OniOdisCornukaydis t1_j2f2old wrote
What's crazy is, a year ago I would never have put Elon in that bucket. And now he's one of the stinkiest slimebugs among them. My guess is he was always that way, especially if you worked for him. But I fell for the marketing. I really should know better.
sjfiuauqadfj t1_j2dwmuj wrote
yea didnt rian say that the character was a mishmash of eccentric billionaires? theres a quick shot of edward norton wearing a black turtleneck that is 5000% a steve jobs reference
Firechess t1_j2dop3m wrote
Reminds me of the billionaires that jumped on plastic made from carbon pulled out of the air.
checkerouter t1_j2dq26e wrote
I always thought hydrogen power had potential, but not as an energy source. More like a replacement for batteries. (E.g. make a shitload of energy using nuclear, use some of that to make hydrogen. Now you have a transportable energy source that burns into water, yay)
ihavetwelvesads OP t1_j2dqk5c wrote
Most current electrolyser are around 70% efficient, so it’s currently viable for smaller things like rocket fuel
checkerouter t1_j2dssxx wrote
Fair point, but if we stopped being stupid and just went full send on nuclear/wind/solar/hydro/geothermal etc then we could probably call a 25% energy loss a write off, considering we could do away with needing to produce batteries and would essentially have infinite energy. We’re just missing a couple improvements to generation efficiency/transport/storage of hydrogen but it could be pretty cool.
OneNoteToRead t1_j2dubt0 wrote
This would work with solar as well. Energy production is a constraint but energy storage/transport is just as important in next-gen renewable solutions.
Thisbymaster t1_j2e28vp wrote
The only thing I hate about the movie is the idea that solidified hydrogen is bad for a green fuel alternative.
Rtfy3 t1_j2dkjew wrote
So why was the black scientists and businesswoman problem with it that it was dangerous and not that it wasn’t economically viable?
a_flat_miner t1_j2dwiuj wrote
If you just said scientist, it would have been equally obvious who you were talking about lol
Rtfy3 t1_j2dyjxk wrote
Everyone would say black scientist at home in private. Only people pretending to be PC have a problem with it in public.
a_flat_miner t1_j2dyxen wrote
Swing and a miss.
Magmas t1_j2enjmd wrote
I'd have said Leslie Odom Jr and Kathryn Hahn because that's their names. Also, she wasn't a businesswoman. She was a politician.
Rtfy3 t1_j2eobqr wrote
Haha, proves my point. If I’d had said black businesswoman you’d have actually known who I was talking about.
sjfiuauqadfj t1_j2dwz1h wrote
economics isnt their goal. science man wants the recognition of being a well known scientist, agatha is a politician who wants votes and knows her voters will hate klear
jlknap1147 t1_j2ds3i7 wrote
Could not make it through this movie, filled with self absorbed a-holes, supposedly satirising them, but can only be made by out of touch Hollywood types.
ihavetwelvesads OP t1_j2dtg16 wrote
spoiler, something very bad happens to the rich people very quickly, and the movie gets really good after that
jlknap1147 t1_j2dy90s wrote
Thanks, but I got that far. Maybe it's the times, but I just could not care a lick for these types. I did like the character switch with the sisters though.
Magmas t1_j2eo17y wrote
So your issue was that you disliked the characters you were supposed to dislike? And the fact these dislikable characters were dislikable means the people who made it were out of touch? I just don't really understand the criticism here.
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Magmas t1_j2dnzi3 wrote
Klear was entirely necessary for the plot to work out. It was the Chekhov's Gun of the entire story.
antipode83 t1_j2dm0pw wrote
I think the more obvious interpretation of klear is that it fits in with Miles' character trait of gas lighting his guests. They see something with their own eyes and he tells them it didn't happen that way, causing them to question their own sanity and powers of reasoning, so he is gaslighting them. Similarly, he has a literal gas (hydrogen) lighting / powering his home. On the second rewatch, Rian is telling the audience what he is doing to them the moment they learn about the power source.