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RudigherJones t1_ixiyedr wrote

The Matrix was perfect as a standalone film.

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Imposingtitle OP t1_ixj7au9 wrote

Wholeheartedly agree. I wanted the sequels or anything that tied in so bad and am glad we got them but they completely ruined the first one in retrospect. Thus in hindsight the dream was better than the reality of what we got. I heard the creators stole the story and that is also why the sequels did not do so well since they actually lack the creativity to make something on their own. but i dont know i just wish the sequels stood up. The action was great but that also was taken from animes.

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Hotdog_Ketchup t1_ixj25mg wrote

True, but the sequels are very good as well

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IceLord86 t1_ixj3lb8 wrote

The sequels are in fact not very good

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Dr_Mantis_Teabaggin t1_ixj43sh wrote

The sequels get progressively worse until they reach the newest one which is easily bottom 5 worst movies I’ve ever seen material.

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The_Stank__ t1_ixj6bal wrote

Once I realized the newest one was a parody of itself to keep WB from moving the franchise forward without the Wachowskis, I appreciated it more. It’s absolutely just poking fun at itself.

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JohnCavil01 t1_ixjusx5 wrote

Ok - but why did that mean it had to also be bad?

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The_Stank__ t1_ixjys65 wrote

Because it’s an inherent parody. WB was going to move along without them and Lana basically said nope, I’ll do it.

And instead of continuing the story thoughtfully she made a parody on reboots and remakes. I like that it was kind of an unintended nail in the coffin for the series.

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JohnCavil01 t1_ixjzpl3 wrote

Yeah but just because something’s a parody doesn’t mean the performances have to be terrible.

I hear this argument a lot and it just feels like covering for the fact that Lana Wachowski made a bad movie. In terms of satire and parody it’s about as subtle as sledgehammer and worst of all it’s just plain boring. If she didn’t have an idea but knew the movie was going to get made anyway rather than making a half-asses movie that people were going to pay $15-20 a pop to see she could have just let somebody else do it on the off chance they actually had a good idea for a sequel.

Which isn’t so much to ask since the Wachowskis demonstrated twice that they didn’t really have an idea for sequels before.

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The_Stank__ t1_ixk09lj wrote

Idk, I thought it was fine. The sequels weren’t great so for me it wasn’t much of a loss.

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IceLord86 t1_ixjzsba wrote

It wasn't a good parody though. If that's what they wanted then fine, but it wasn't well done and was an unfocused mess that wanted to have it both ways and IMO failed at both.

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Hotdog_Ketchup t1_ixj433l wrote

That is in fact not true, they are good

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ShutUpRedditor44 t1_ixjmc5w wrote

Redditors confusing opinions for facts any 100% wr gg ez no cap

^i ^love ^all ^the ^matrix ^movies

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WhyWorryAboutThat t1_ixjd298 wrote

No, but two of the three of them happen to be full of some of the most insane shit I've ever seen, so they are at least worth watching.

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