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RyzenRaider t1_iyc7cs7 wrote

Everything Everywhere All at Once might fail it. Most of the characters only talk to Evelyn or Joy, so most male interactions don't pass the 2nd point. There's a dirty laundromat customer that talks about his wife's perfume. Waymond talks to Joy and Evelyn, but I don't think he exchanges dialogue (meaning each says something to the other in a conversation) with Gong Gong.

The other jumpers don't talk to each other either either. I might be missing a small moment, but I don't think the movie passes.

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karliboyy OP t1_iyc7oqj wrote

Wow good take. Thanks a lot! I have seen it a couple of month ago but never would have realized I guess!

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RyzenRaider t1_iycf48m wrote

It's a quirk of the Bechdel test. Great movies, even feminist films can fail the test. It's more a measure of the industry over time, and how much variety and depth exists within female roles.

I believe Aliens and T2 - both classic feminist films - fail the test. Aliens is debatable, based on how you define the dialog requirement (Ripley talks to the marines about aliens, Vasquez says she just needs to know where they are, but Ripley doesn't really respond to this. So Ripley was talking to the group and didn't reciprocate Vasquez). Newt doesn't count because she's considered a child rather than a woman).

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reatter t1_iycfmzl wrote

>Newt doesn't count because she's considered a child rather than a woman

Ha, ageist! /s

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karliboyy OP t1_iycg9ca wrote

Thanks again :) I dont believe any of the named criterias will lead to good or bad movies. I just think its an interesting thought experiment and as you said sometimes a good measure of variety and depth female roles in movies.

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