Submitted by chrisbokiul t3_yggtvo in movies
ignore_me_im_high t1_iu9adpx wrote
Reply to comment by Mnemosense in Jean-Pierre Jeunet on Alien Resurrection, 25 years on by chrisbokiul
Personally I think the idea is shite and I'm not surprised Whedon thought it was cool. The idea of 'Xenomorphs on Earth' and how that would have to be executed is basically the opposite of what made the first Alien film so good.
I just think it becomes a very mundane story at that point, pure action, because you know it's just trying to make things 'bigger and better' than AlienS. It's basically just 'Starship Troopers on Earth', only done without any satire or self-awareness..
Mnemosense t1_iu9gkao wrote
Aliens on Earth is completely different type of story than an Alien killing a crew one by one which is the same damn shit we've gotten in literally EVERY SINGLE ALIEN MOVIE. Literally every single one follows the same template, Alien 1, 2, 3, 4, and even the shitty last two movies.
The comics have stories set on Earth and they're vastly more interesting than Alien 3 onwards for exploring how a traumatised Newt and Hicks living in a cyberpunk world deals with aliens, plus there are stories set on the Alien homeworld which are more interesting than anything Ridley's done with the shitty prequels.
This is why I'm still astonished the franchise hasn't gone to Earth yet, it opens up new narratives, but instead they just keep repeating the same damn formula, it's mind-boggling.
EDIT: for all the sad people who watched AvP, no those movies are in their own timeline and don't count.
dbabon t1_iu9kj08 wrote
When you break formula and release the cool beasts from scary isolated environments, you get shit like the end of The Lost World and all of JW: Dominion
FeedMeACat t1_iu9nqp9 wrote
Movies like this almost always become self parody. The stories are inherently anti corporate. There is nothing ostensibly wrong with setting Alien movies on Earth. There is also nothing ostensibly wrong with the scientific study of an dangerous aggressive alien species, but we know the inevitable outcome when corporations have control of these projects be they entertainment or dangerous alien research.
Asiriya t1_iubi833 wrote
Even Dominion barely bothered to have dinos loose and immediately put them back in a park
ehiggs t1_iueqsh8 wrote
If they didn't want to do the same formulae and wanted more Alien stuff they could being a couple of xenomorph eggs back to a space station, contained. Then it becomes a hot potato amongst factions where they try to get access to this weapon. A bit like The Expanse and the protovirus. Basically make more episodes of The Expanse, please. But without the imaginary people giving exposition dumps.
frederick_tussock t1_iu9mpgd wrote
There's a lot more going on in "Ridley's shitty prequels" than just crews being killed by an Alien one by one. Making a movie where Xenomorphs are let loose in a Wal-Mart just sounds like Alien Vs. Predator 2.
Mnemosense t1_iu9nz4g wrote
The comics do not go down the AvP route at all. Apocalyptic cults start forming around the world worshipping the aliens, which hastens the breeding process. After a few story arcs, once Earth has been retaken many years later, humans start wearing mech suits which counters acid blood, which gives the whole franchise a new aesthetic instead of characters stupidly getting acid all over their face. Mega-Corporations start looking for 'royal jelly' from the alien queen and turning it into a designer drug.
There's so many routes you can go by allowing Earth into the mix, instead of repeatedly having stupid ass characters running down spaceship corridors being chased by ever-increasingly shit looking aliens that still haven't rivalled the ones in Alien 1 and 2.
frederick_tussock t1_iu9qn8i wrote
Mmm... what's always been interesting about Alien to me is the Xenomorph as this terrifying, unknowable and practically unstoppable force, when you outfit your protagonists with mech suits to fight them and then have people getting high off the alien's bodily fluids you kind of kill that.
Mnemosense t1_iu9tqp4 wrote
Unlike Ripley's previous two movies, the comics have not to my knowledge given an origin for what the aliens are. Humans adapting to them however gives our species a modicum of intelligence.
One of the best lines in a recent comic I read was something like "imagine what kind of predator there had to be, for the aliens to evolve acid blood as a defence mechanism..."
hlessi_newt t1_iu9jvs7 wrote
It would be be amazing. If Hollywood could just pull it's head from its arse this would be a billion dollar trilogy.
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