Submitted by drumlip t3_yiojy5 in movies

I watched Last Action Hero (1993) last night, and it's a very mediocre film, but Charles Dance's villain is incredible. I feel like if the movie had been better on the whole, he could have gone down in history among great film baddies.

It got me thinking, what are some other movies that are bad to middling but have excellent bad guys?

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ryschwith t1_iujoioq wrote

Sam Rockwell in Iron Man 2 (even though I like that movie more than most).

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MrThrowAweh t1_iujo8bt wrote

Law abiding citizen. Really murky film in which most viewers including myself see the main antagonist as the main protagonist.

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arlondiluthel t1_iujp3re wrote

My memory may be foggy, but I thought that movie was underrated.

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WhereIsThatElephant t1_iuk3d5e wrote

The Great Toppler of world governments and the main brain in the XXX agencies gets outsmarted by a measly detective. Yeah, this happens every day.

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Syn7axError t1_iujrqsj wrote

Street Fighter: The Movie with Raul Julia.

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arlondiluthel t1_iujozt5 wrote

The Dark Knight Rises. The bar set by The Dark Knight essentially guaranteed that the movie wouldn't be well-received, but I thought Bane was very good.

Avengers: Age of Ultron. One of the weaker MCU films, but Ultron was fantastic (they did him dirty though, he was very weak by MCU villain standards), and James Spader did a... Marvelous job (I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself).

I'm going to pair these next two together, because I think the context is needed. Both Johnny Depp and Mads Mickelsen did an incredible job in The Crimes of Grindelwald and the Secrets of Dumbledore, even if the movies themselves weren't... Fantastic (seriously, I might have a problem).

Finally... Count Dooku was the best aspect of Attack of the Clones.

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Keksis_theBetrayed t1_iujs2je wrote

I disagree on your final point.

The best part of Attack of the Clones was "Across the Stars" and its variations.

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arlondiluthel t1_iujtwip wrote

Let's be real though... Has John Williams ever done anything poorly?

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Scoob79 t1_iujqn1g wrote

Robin Hood Prince of Thieves and Gangs of New York immediately come to mind for me.

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navi_napoleon t1_iuk2nq0 wrote

Alan Rickman plays the baddie so good. Just do the listen to his answering machine

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500DaysofNight t1_iujp27j wrote

As much as I love Masters of the Universe, Frank Langella far and away stole every scene he was in and was the best part of the movie.

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farmerarmor t1_iujtdra wrote

That movie could have been so much better. I still love it because I grew up during that era and 5 year old me almost lost my mind at how awesome it seemed. But they coulda done so much better.

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nowhereman136 t1_iujpeum wrote

Black Mask (Ewan McGregor) in Birds of Prey

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Opus-the-Penguin t1_iujw1zr wrote

The Dark Knight. Not bad, but definitely "middling" in my opinion. Heath Ledger's performance is what makes it worthwhile. Bale's Batman isn't worthy of that quality of nemesis.

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Mulchpuppy t1_iujsq5e wrote

At first I didn't like him in the movie, but as it moved along I did a 360.

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theOriginalDrCos t1_iuk9eqq wrote

It's a one-eighty you spaghetti-slurping moron.

Honorable mention here to F. Murray Abraham in this film as well...

"I killed a lot of guys."

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farmerarmor t1_iujt1uv wrote

Highlander is a trash film without Clancy brown.

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Stunning-Hedgehog932 t1_iuk04ch wrote

Art the Clown

Both movies are good fun with some amazing moments, but there's a AAA+ horror in there somewhere that hasn't been reached yet

Hopefully they experiment a little within the franchise. Two splatter movies could have a straight 90 min horror as a palette cleanser

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HotBarnacle t1_iuk3jg3 wrote

Alex Cross. I couldn't be bothered to finish the movie, but Matthew Perry's character was the sole bright spot (and it was a faint one, to be sure).

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Unlikely_Layer_2268 t1_iuk6pjb wrote

Star Wars. Han was cool. Vader was brutal, crushing throats all the time

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humble_oppossum t1_iujursp wrote

Bunker. No one has seen it because it just debuted at a local theater but it does have a YouTube trailer. The bad guy made the movie watchable and outshined the lead

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WhereIsThatElephant t1_iuk31ml wrote

both Kevin Spacey and the Irish guy in Horrible Bosses.

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Panz04er t1_iuk6di1 wrote

Wait, by Irish guy, do you mean Colin Farrell

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