Avatar 2 Ummm did I miss something?

Submitted by Professional-Rip-519 t3_127wqqj in movies

I love James Cameron he's my favourite director but this has to be he's second worst movie after the Spawning. I need to rewatch Parahna 2 again to see if it's better than my memory serves. But as for Way of the Water the plot feels forced since we all know how much Jim loves the ocean. There's no need for Sully and fam to go stay with the water blue people. And why do the water Navi react like their seeing aliens when they see the forest Navi I'm pretty sure both tribes has been around for thousands of years. There's also so much exposition it feels like their explaining a hole movie that happened in between. Why are the sky people so dumb attacking wise . All the characters seem flat except for Spider (unexplained) and the Sigourney Weaver Kid (unexplained) . Why is the Imbd score so high am I missing something?

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le66669 t1_jeg6paj wrote

Agree 100%. It also annoyed me that they are now only there to get fancy sperm whale oil (no mention of unobtanium).
I do think the vibrancy in his world building is amazing and not to be underestimated in its impact on reception.

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Saoirse_Says t1_jeg6vir wrote

I dunno I saw it in IMAX and turned my critical thinking off for 3.5 hours and had my mind blown by the audiovisual experience lol

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tempaccountinterval t1_jeg742f wrote

I was too busy taking in the spectacle to care to be honest. That aside, they did explain the need to switch bases. Water guys reacting that way makes some sense at least considering how some people do react that way here on Earth - not too far to consider that happening with tribes. Exposition, I guess, not trying to defend it too much because I can't recall exactly where they did too much of it, I did'nt really care too much because it was with friends and we had a blast just looking at the film - I guess exposition would be a subjective thing - maybe too little/maybe not enough Unsure. Yeah but sky people not just killing off certain characters etc. just made me feel like its a bit too much sympathy to expect from them. Film is subjective, if you felt that way its perfectly fine. For instance, I abhor Space Odyssey 2001 and consider it a snoozefest but I'm aware of its merits and why people like it. Honestly, looking forward to Avatar 3 just to see the fire spectacle of it - and that's the prime reason. Just like how I'll likely watch the upcoign transformers film for the crazy big screen effects.

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izza123 t1_jeg7451 wrote

No you didn’t miss anything it was terrible. People had decided ahead of time to enjoy it and set aside its many faults but it was objectively bad.

Edit: well you’ve alerted the horde now

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Professional-Rip-519 OP t1_jeg8r6y wrote

Replying to izza123 (#2,547,137)

It's beyond me how people can say this is good but something like Black Adam is bad .Both had wooden lead characters, both had little to no story with exposition as dialog covered in pretty cgi why are we making apples and oranges here.

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TheShadyGuy t1_jeg91fh wrote

I guess you should have paid more attention to that exposition, because it explained what you seem to be missing about the plot.

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4a4a t1_jeg9tz5 wrote

I felt the same way about the first Avatar movie. It seemed like it had been written by a 13 year old boy, but it looked amazing. I've had no desire or intention to see the 2nd one.

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KomithEr t1_jegaj96 wrote

it looked like a video game tbh, or maybe just my eyes are too used to cgi by now

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MisterB78 t1_jegaxnj wrote

What did you expect after the first movie? It's a decidedly mediocre movie with spectacular visual effects. Enjoy it (or don't) for what it is, but if you're expecting it to be some opus magnum then that's pretty much on you

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muihuddin t1_jegc2l8 wrote

One of the worst movies i have seen

So freaking long and absolutely pointless

The ducking general keeps getting his children and still does fuck all

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Tonyhillzone t1_jegckyr wrote

How did the bad guys know that Sully had left the forest and to go looking for them?

Why did the water tribe abandon Sully and family half way through the big fight, and just reappear and the end to tell them that they are family now?

How many times did the kids get kidnapped and yet left in an unsecured location by supposedly badass military people?

What happened to the bad guys going native like they said they were going to do at the beginning?

And it's pretty much a rehash of the first movie, just in a water setting.

Also, they talk about needing to pacify the locals so humans can settle Pandora because Earth is dying. Why would you settle a planet/moon that had an atmosphere so toxic it renders you unconscious in seconds?

Stunning film, but more of a David Attenborough nature documentary than a coherent story. Enjoyable though.

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Sks44 t1_jegdpof wrote

Cameron has become a painter that enjoys painting the background and gets annoyed when he has to deal with figures.

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k_albasi t1_jegg1ma wrote

Yeah but the water looked like water.

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TheOnlyJurg t1_jegq41r wrote

Replying to Futur_alliance (#2,548,124)

I do love how you people still don’t get it. It’s the first film to use underwater performance capture technology, the first avatar was also groundbreaking. There’s more to films than just stroking peoples perceived intelligence, lmao.

Imagine if every film was just some complex plot so viewers like you can feel special about themselves. Cinema would be fucking awful.

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[deleted] t1_jeh2gfl wrote

Replying to 4a4a (#2,548,053)

There is no difference with the quality of writing of Aliens or Terminator and the Avatar films.

Seriously. Rewatch those beloved classics. Cameron was always about spectacle and concept. His dialogue and stories were never the appeal.

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