In anticipation of Joh Wick 4 this weekend i rewatched the first 3 and it has me wondering…who would win in hand to hand combat? I’m talking fists and whatever else is readily available in the room. My first thought was Jason Bourne’s resourcefulness, speed, intellect, and skill from his would leave him standing. But, John Wick is absolutely ruthless and certainly is trained in combat styles and hand to hand combat.

Does Ethan Hunt even have a chance here? Am I overlooking him? Hunt seems to excel most when he has the resources of the IMF, but he certainly is highly trained in combat but not as ruthless as Wick or Bourne. He may be near Wick in terms of pure fighting skills but is not nearly the killer Wick is. There’s no doubt Wick’s body count is more than Hunt and Bourne combined!

Thoughts? Which series do you guys enjoy most? Hope John Wick 4 is awesome!

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Asha_Brea t1_jddnurg wrote on March 23, 2023 at 5:23 PM

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Purely hand to hand? probably Bourne.

With weapons (and everything that is not part of the human body counts as a weapon)? probably Wick.

By deceiving everyone with a scooby doo mask? probably Hunt.

Select_Action_6065 t1_jddnzef wrote on March 23, 2023 at 5:24 PM

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Wick all day every day and twice on Sunday.

meowskywalker t1_jddo8w4 wrote on March 23, 2023 at 5:26 PM

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If I know anything about protagonist matchups they would fight for long enough that each of them could have a moment where they could seem to have the advantage, then they would realize they’re all good guys and team up against bad guys without ever actually deciding who was best so that no fan bases are offended.

Abject-Plankton-1118 t1_jddoode wrote on March 23, 2023 at 5:29 PM

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Chuck Norris

monodopple t1_jddpya9 wrote on March 23, 2023 at 5:37 PM

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Replying to Asha_Brea (#2,320,857)

I'm gonna say bourne, each movie he's been proven in his hand to hand. Though him and wick can take mounds of punishment. It would be pretty gruesome if it went on long lol.

SuperNntendoChlmers t1_jddq3sx wrote on March 23, 2023 at 5:37 PM

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Hunt is fearless and wont hesitate to go after people bigger than him, but he's had some chance luck to win a lot of his fights.

Bourne and Wick are closest in their hand to hand combat skill level and resourcefulness. Bourne used a book and Wick used a peyncil. I think Bourne would need some kind of luck tho, Wick is just absolutely cold, and his main goal is to kill, not just defend himself. Bourne sometimes is still trying to win a fight but maybe gain some information like Hunt, so he doesnt have that same drive Wick does.

Wick can take some pretty good damage too.

Asha_Brea t1_jddqbcy wrote on March 23, 2023 at 5:39 PM

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Replying to monodopple (#2,321,068)

I don't remember Wick being all that proficient with hand to hand combat. Didn't he struggled against an old man at the end of the first movie?

Now, he can kill you with a book or a fucking pencil, but with a right hook? I don't know.

doc_55lk t1_jddqh0z wrote on March 23, 2023 at 5:40 PM

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If it was a deathmatch, John Wick, easily. Especially if "whatever else is readily available in the room" can be used as a weapon. His combat versatility is on another level. He killed a dude with a fucking book ffs.

Between Jason Bourne and Ethan Hunt, I'd give it to Bourne. Ethan Hunt isn't really that great at hand to hand combat. His victories have largely come down to having an assist and/or being in the right place at the right time. He's otherwise fairly easily outmatched in direct combat. If this were a car chase battle though, he'd probably be in very close contention with John Wick, if not the winner.

SodaPopinski53891 t1_jddrkro wrote on March 23, 2023 at 5:47 PM

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Ethan Hunt would have won if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids.

Asha_Brea t1_jddrrhq wrote on March 23, 2023 at 5:48 PM

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Replying to SuperNntendoChlmers (#2,321,088)

>Hunt is fearless and wont hesitate to go after people bigger than him

He wouldn't have a career if he hesitated to go after people bigger than him...

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monodopple t1_jddsv1n wrote on March 23, 2023 at 5:55 PM

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Replying to Asha_Brea (#2,321,105)

John wick does do some straight up hand to hand, but not like bourne. He has an extended fight with common in 2. But yeah, eventually a weapon comes into play.

Badwolf_131 t1_jddsy8n wrote on March 23, 2023 at 5:55 PM

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It would be a toss up between Bourne and Wick. Hunt is better when he has a team. He has yet to be truly solo for a full outing.

FantasticAnalysis163 t1_jddtb9t wrote on March 23, 2023 at 5:58 PM

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Ethan Hunt vs Peter Dinklage

WhenRobLoweRobsLowes t1_jddunba wrote on March 23, 2023 at 6:06 PM

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I'll be the nerd that digs in on fighting style.

John Wick is a practitioner of Brazilian Jiu-jitsu, which is a lot of grappling, positioning, and ground fighting.

Jason Bourne primarily uses a mix of Kali and Jeet Kune Do. Defensive postures and swift counterattack.

Ethan Hunt started out mostly with capoeira (flashy, acrobatic fighting) and shifted to Keysi Fighting Method (defensive postures and elbow or hammerfist responses) in later films.

All of this is dubious, because of the magic of filmmaking and how every fighter says their style is the best, but I'd say:

Hunt and Bourne would square off well in the opening round, but Bourne would win out.

If Bourne can keep his feet, he'd beat Wick, but if Wick can get him on the ground, shit's gonna go bad for Bourne.

Hunt versus Wick would be a mess, but Wick would roll it up in the end.

Three-way fight would go better for Hunt, since Keysi is designed with multiple opponents in mind and it multiple opponents plays more to Hunt's trickster tendencies, but Bourne is still going to win out just based on the level of violence in the methods.