Mech-Noir t1_jdfffa8 wrote
Reply to comment by FrameworkisDigimon in I recently saw Blade Runner (1982) and really did not get the appeal. Why is this movie so iconic? by Joseph_Santos_Cruzz
Of course Blade Runner is iconic lmao. Objectively so. It literally spawned the art direction for the scifi subgenre of Cyberpunk. Which has inspired countless films, books, games, anime, and comics. It literally created the de-facto look for dystopian sci-fi.
You can not like Bladerunner, that's fine, but saying it "isn't actually iconic" is objectively wrong. It permeates the majority of science fiction media. Syd Mead's designs have been propping up the scifi world ever since...
FrameworkisDigimon t1_jdfgzn6 wrote
So, your argument for why the film Blade Runner is iconic is that the aesthetic which has been aped endlessly and applied to wildly different science fiction is iconic? Do you see the problem here? There's nothing specific to Blade Runner and your best argument for its being iconic is that its designs were capable of being abstracted out of the movie.
But the bigger problem with the argument is that I have defined "iconic" in terms of mainstream crossover, whereas you're just telling me that Blade Runner's influence is limited to the science fiction ghetto. You know, the very people I repeatedly pointed out do like Blade Runner to the exclusion of everyone else.
Mech-Noir t1_jdfni40 wrote
>So, your argument for why the film Blade Runner is iconic is that the aesthetic which has been aped endlessly and applied to wildly different science fiction is iconic? Do you see the problem here? There's nothing specific to Blade Runner and your best argument for its being iconic is that its designs were capable of being abstracted out of the movie.
The problem I see is you have no argument here, you just described what an iconic work of fiction does. You think there's nothing "specific" to bladerunner? What the hell are you even talking about? I just told you what it specifically influenced.
>you're just telling me that Blade Runner's influence is limited to the science fiction ghetto
The sf sub-genre of Cyberpunk by itself is massive. Ever heard of Cyberpunk 2077!? I'm actually laughing at the use of "ghetto of Science fiction". This has to be the dumbest thing I've read on reddit in months.
A science fiction film just became one of the highest grossing films ever.
You're objectively wrong here.
FrameworkisDigimon t1_jdft9a9 wrote
>there's nothing "specific" to bladerunner?
Firstly, it's spelt Blade Runner.
Secondly, that's not what I said. But I shouldn't be surprised that you're confused because you can't spell the name of the movie.
There is nothing specific to Blade Runner in cyberpunk.
People aren't referencing Blade Runner when they create cyberpunk fiction/art... they're referencing cyberpunk. Any connection to Blade Runner was lost a long, long time ago.
>This has to be the dumbest thing I've read on reddit in months.
Clearly you don't read your own comments.
>A science fiction film just became one of the highest grossing films ever.
A film which is an entirely different kind of science fiction.
Mech-Noir t1_jdg22cf wrote
>People aren't referencing Blade Runner when they create cyberpunk fiction/art...
Yes they absolutely are. They even put references of it into them.
>A film which is an entirely different kind of science fiction.
Yes, a franchise which took cues from Blade Runner in its depiction of Earth.
You're objectively wrong. Maybe some reading will help educate and give you some humility. You'll find some quotes in there of all the people whom were inspired by Syd Mead's work, the chief designer of the visual style in bladerunner. Many of whom work on the content you brainlessly consume now.
>The film has influenced many science fiction films, video games, anime, and television series. It brought the work of Philip K. Dick to the attention of Hollywood, and several of his works later became films such as Total Recall (1990), Minority Report (2002), and A Scanner Darkly (2006). In 1993, it was selected for preservation in the U.S. National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".
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>While not initially a success with North American audiences, Blade Runner was popular internationally and garnered a cult following.[137] The film's dark style and futuristic designs have served as a benchmark and its influence can be seen in many subsequent science fiction films, video games, anime, and television programs.[114] For example, Ronald D. Moore and David Eick, the producers of the re-imagining of Battlestar Galactica, have both cited Blade Runner as one of the major influences for the show.[138]
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>Blade Runner continues to reflect modern trends and concerns, and an increasing number of critics consider it one of the greatest science fiction films of all time.[148] It was voted the best science fiction film ever made in a 2004 poll of 60 eminent world scientists.[149] Blade Runner is also cited as an important influence to both the style and story of the Ghost in the Shell franchise, which itself has been highly influential to the future-noir genre.[150][151] Blade Runner has been very influential to the cyberpunk movement.[152][153][154][155] It also influenced the cyberpunk derivative biopunk, which revolves around biotechnology and genetic engineering.[156][157]
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>The design of Tesla's Cybertruck was inspired by the film.[179] Prior to its release Elon Musk promised that it would "look like something out of Blade Runner".[180] Besides referring to the truck as the "Blade Runner Truck", Musk chose to debut the truck in order to coincide with the film's setting of November 2019.[181] The film's art designer Syd Mead praised the truck and said he was "flattered" by the homage to Blade Runner.[180]
It's so iconic it's literally preserved in the U.S National Film Registry and inspired countless works of science fiction after it's release. Including "non-cyberpunk" scifi.
It's a shame you're so ignorant. A little bit of googling would have spared you this embarrassment. I guess you don't understand the definition of iconic?
FrameworkisDigimon t1_jdgsfrg wrote
>Yes they absolutely are. They even put references of it into them.
Either this is mind bogglingly stupid ("one thing one time reference Blade Runner, therefore all uses of cyberpunk specifically reference Blade Runner") or you think when I said cyberpunk I meant Cyberpunk 2077 (which is also stupid, but not mind bogglingly so).
> You'll find some quotes in there of all the people whom were inspired by Syd Mead's work, the chief designer of the visual style in bladerunner. Many of whom work on the content you brainlessly consume now.
Which again doesn't establish anything relevant. And can't.
>It's a shame you're so ignorant.
It's a shame you can't read or deploy logic or spell.
Mech-Noir t1_jdhin1d wrote
>or you think when I said cyberpunk I meant Cyberpunk 2077 (which is also stupid, but not mind bogglingly so).
I referenced it because it was one of the largest video game releases in history and is heavily inspired by Blade Runner. So much so it includes several direct references to it. You can read about the origins of the IP here.
The rest of the Cyberpunk genre is of course also heavily influenced by Blade Runner. Clearly not niche or some "ghetto of science fiction". It's influence goes far beyond just that sub-genre as I already pointed out.
>“‘Blade Runner’ is simply one of those cinematic drugs, that when I first saw it, I never saw the world the same way again,” Oscar-winning filmmaker Guillermo del Toro told one interviewer, when describing why “Blade Runner” was one of his five favorite films of all-time.
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>Del Toro wasn’t alone. For a whole generation of filmmakers — including the cinematographers, productions designers and visual effects artists — a direct line can be drawn between “Blade Runner” and the imagery of modern sci-fi movie.
I've provided ample evidence that flies in the face of your claims. At this point you're either actually this stupid or a troll. In which case it's pointless to consider further conversation.
If you aren't a troll, you'd do well to just admit when you're wrong.
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