timidyellow t1_j276h5j wrote on December 30, 2022 at 3:25 AM

Reply to comment by afroggybanana in Context in comments by _RedditDiver_

How is the word American and grandfather offended to anyone?

afroggybanana t1_j277lza wrote on December 30, 2022 at 3:33 AM

The reason someone might call out "American" is because Canadians also live in North "America". The reason someone might call out "Grandfather" as in "this student was grandfathered into the system where..." is because it's a gendered word.

Again, these aren't reasons to not use those words, they're not widely offensive, and they're not on a ban list. They're on a list of words that someone somewhere might find exclusive, and they're on that list as a sort of catalogue so they can be discussed internally in Stanford's IT dept.

timidyellow t1_j27epqs wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:30 AM

Ever thought about teaching kids what they went to study there? Gendered language my ass. Grandfather and grandmother both exists. You can use either depending on the context.

afroggybanana t1_j27gkee wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:46 AM

I feel like you must be intentionally missing the point. This is not teaching material. It doesn't distract from the content of courses. It's not related at all to student activities or curriculum. It's a list of words that the IT department wanted to have an internal discussion about concerning content on the school's website. Something along the lines of "Do you guys think we're okay to use the word 'damn' on the school bookstore's website?"

Also, I've never heard someone say they've been "grandmothered" into an outdated pricing plan. And I'm not sure in which context you think you would choose one over the other. But that's beside the point.

timidyellow t1_j27gsn8 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:48 AM

With this comment i give up on trying to argue with a woke person. I accept my defeat. I quit.

afroggybanana t1_j27hnif wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:55 AM

I'm not even arguing, I'm trying to clarify what we're even talking about in the first place and you're reading past me and finding intent where there is none

_RedditDiver_ OP t1_j27fh32 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:36 AM

As a Canadian I don’t give a shit

afroggybanana t1_j27h32q wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:50 AM

Neat. I agree. I think it's unlikely that a reasonable person would mistake "American" for "Non-US North American". Perhaps the point of contention is related to Native Americans versus citizens of the USA. That too I think is a weird and unrealistic angle though. Who knows