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HollowVesterian OP t1_jeeof3y wrote

Reply to comment by Critical-Ad-7094 in Tankie is just liberal "woke" by HollowVesterian

Nah, those are pretty defined and most of the time get used actually. I put tankie there because apparently asking a person for proof that the USSR killed 300 sextyllion 4 year olds makes me a tankie

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeeosxs wrote

Ohh I see you're actually an ideologue, sorry i didn't realise you were just spouting nonsense instead of something informative. And no, those terms aren't being used properly by their definition. The fact you won't believe someone when they say the USSR killed X amount of people, by definition, makes you a bigot. So just gonna leave you with that and not care to interact with you further.

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HollowVesterian OP t1_jeepp8p wrote

>The fact you won't believe someone when they say the USSR killed X amount of people, by definition, makes you a bigot.

Explain how

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeeqido wrote

bigot noun big·​ot ˈbi-gət Synonyms of bigot : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

Sounds quite intolerant to not believe others when they tell you facts, doesn't it? Sounds like youre quite devoted to that position, yes? Bigotry 101.

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Chronic_Sardonic t1_jeeqq6g wrote

>when they tell you facts

You’ve not shared facts, you’ve shared an opinion and nobody is a bigot for not buying it lol

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeeqzhp wrote

Ohhh so now we shift the goalposts in our favour. I mean when a someone on the other side of the political aisle makes a claim that you can't factually counter, they're a bigot. But ehe you make a claim you can factually counter, you're not a bigot?

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HollowVesterian OP t1_jeer9h8 wrote

Ok,

  1. Bro is running out of alt. accounts
  2. mf we are not changing the goal posts you just can't read
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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeerjj8 wrote

Why would I need alt accounts when you're just an ideologue with stupid opinions?

Also, you are changing the goalposts constantly, that was my initial statement in the first place and my view on that hasn't wavered.

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HollowVesterian OP t1_jef14dw wrote

You changed the goalposts when you said wanting proof of something bad the USSR did makes someone a buggot

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Chronic_Sardonic t1_jees0b1 wrote

…this is a word salad. No one is a bigot for disagreeing with your claims, even if you can find one mouth breather who uses the term that way. No goalposts have been moved.

I’m starting to think what you actually meant was “I am dumb and don’t know the definition of these words so I assume it’s not important”

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jees80p wrote

Ohhh so now It's just word salad? I understand if youre not quite able to understand what was said. That's fine. Your lack of understanding doesn't make me wrong, however.

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Chronic_Sardonic t1_jeeua9e wrote

And your lack of understanding doesn’t mean the words you’re using don’t have definitions lol

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeeuvlp wrote

My lack of understanding?! Oh my goodness, I lack understanding according to u/who gives a shit.

All I understand is you're not quite there yet.

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Chronic_Sardonic t1_jeev5bp wrote

Can you define the word homophobe yes or no

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeevice wrote

I can, just like the word woke has a definition, and tanky has a definition.

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Chronic_Sardonic t1_jeevods wrote

Well, not “just like” since “homophobe” like “racist” and “bigot” are actually in the dictionary.

But thank you for affirming the word has not become meaningless

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeew7eu wrote

I never said they were meaningless, you never understood the original post which makes it hilarious

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Chronic_Sardonic t1_jeewpah wrote

I’ll explain this to you as simply as possible:

Claiming a word has “lost all meaning” is the same as saying it’s meaningless. Both phrases indicate a lack of meaning.

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeex1lw wrote

Is that so? OK explain it further for me. Get really into it. Like I mean, write a massive essay about it and when you FINALLY realise I don't care what your opinion is you'll finally understand why im confident in what I've already stated.

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turndownforwomp t1_jeepn6h wrote

Just because occasionally someone uses a word like “racist” wrong doesn’t mean it no longer has meaning. Your “ideologue” accusation would be better levelled at yourself than OP

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeeq7yr wrote

How so exactly?

And yes, when people use a term incorrectly as much as has been done in recent years, it does lose meaning. To the point where people believe racism means "race and power" when in years past it just meant race. So how am I the ideologue here or are you using the "No, U" argument?

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turndownforwomp t1_jeeqh29 wrote

No; the vast majority of people understand that “racism” means “racial prejudice”. What you’re claiming is simply factually incorrect, the word is used clearly, properly, and effectively all the time. Leave your internet echo chamber and talk to normal people for a little while, you’ll realize your claim is nonsense.

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeeqoch wrote

What internet echo chamber do you refer to exactly? Also you still didn't say how I was an ideologue, probably because you're talking out of your arse.

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turndownforwomp t1_jeer88w wrote

You’re an ideologue because your desire to dismiss all of these words clearly comes from political and social positions that incline you to dismiss any and all uses of those words. They’re not meaningless, you just want to claim that so you never have to respond to anyone pointing out that something may be racist or bigoted. “Those words don’t really mean anything” is a cop out from someone who hasn’t touched grass in a while

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeerpk6 wrote

Ok so what is my political or social position then?

Someone who hasn't touched grass in a while? Coming from someone who sounds like they're terminally online, I'll take that as a compliment.

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turndownforwomp t1_jeere9g wrote

The claim “these words don’t mean anything anymore” when they are daily used in communication in meaningful ways that the vast majority of English speakers understand and can explain is…laughable and nonsensical

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeeryh2 wrote

I'm happy to see you show how dumb you are, I really am.

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turndownforwomp t1_jees7ja wrote

I’m happy to see you can’t come up with a coherent response to me pointing out that words do in fact have meaning.

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeesau1 wrote

And I'm happy to laugh at your fumbling around for someone to care.

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turndownforwomp t1_jeesu6a wrote

It’s pretty telling that you keep responding but can’t defend yourself against the points I’ve made.

Obviously this is a softball argument because, i have said, the words do have established meanings the majority of us agree on and you trying to calming otherwise is a joke but it’s still fun

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeet188 wrote

You can keep saying all you want, but you're just coming off as quite the fool. And I'm happy to indulge such foolish behaviour, but I'm not arguing with you because you're shouting in to a void and it's funny to watch such futility.

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turndownforwomp t1_jeet81q wrote

If you’re not going to keep defending your stupid claim that words don’t have meanings I’m done here. Since you’re not defending it, and it was so stupid to begin with, I’ll just take this W and hope you learn critical thinking someday.

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeetfmr wrote

You can say it's a stupid claim and take a "W" (whatever the fuck that is), still doesn't make you right in any way, shape or form. So like with the rest of your argument, enjoy your imaginary fun.

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turndownforwomp t1_jeetl4o wrote

Words have definitions, bro. I’m right, you’re wrong. Everyone knows what racist and bigot and all those other words you listed mean and they’re used correctly all the time. Your claim was stupid, mine is just observable truth.

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Critical-Ad-7094 t1_jeetp54 wrote

"I'm right, yoire wrong"

Gee I remember hearing that in a playground years ago and it sounded as stupid then as it does now. Maybe you need a life.

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turndownforwomp t1_jeeu0j2 wrote

I’m sure you’ve heard people tell you you’re wrong many times since the playground, especially given your opinion on how words work. I can’t imagine you’ve ever gotten a good grade on an essay with your particular approach to the English language

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