Submitted by SAT0725 t3_1094lvy in massachusetts
warlocc_ t1_j3x3s0l wrote
I can understand the "without a degree" clause, but why over 25? Doesn't make sense. At that age, unless you're a trust fund baby, you probably have even less going for you.
marmosetohmarmoset t1_j3xvmvw wrote
Going back to school as an adult is harder than when fresh out of high school. Removing tuition as a factor could significantly lower hurdles for this population.
warlocc_ t1_j3y2ud8 wrote
You're not wrong. I don't think it invalidates my point either, though.
marmosetohmarmoset t1_j3y31bw wrote
I guess I’m not sure what you mean by “less going for you” or why that would mean you wouldn’t be a good candidate for this program?
warlocc_ t1_j3y46e2 wrote
To simplify it, I mean when I was 22 I was broke. When I was 32, I wasn't. For a lot of people, paying for something expensive at 32 should be easier than 22.
marmosetohmarmoset t1_j3y58r8 wrote
Do you already have a college degree and a decent job? Did you have kids or other expensive responsibilities when you were 32?
It sounds like this program is specifically targeting adults who don’t have existing training that would get them well-paying jobs. Or who might currently be in a dying industry and want to transition to a new line of work that the state is in need of workers for.
There are plenty of 30 year olds out there still working low-paying service jobs. But at 30 they’re more likely to also have significant expenses like children that a younger person would be less likely to have.
warlocc_ t1_j3yhfiw wrote
If you've already got a college degree, then obviously you're not who we're talking about.
If you've got kids... Presumably you knew you could afford to have kids.
Doesn't change the point I'm making that a young person probably has less money than an older person. Full stop.
marmosetohmarmoset t1_j3ynwkc wrote
I think you’re being a little naïve about how difficult it is to make a living in this state without a college degree. The point is a lot of adults aren’t doing better than 22 year olds.
warlocc_ t1_j3yq0m5 wrote
>I think you’re being a little naïve about how difficult it is to make a living in this state without a college degree.
On that, I guarantee I'm not. I'm in that camp myself.
marmosetohmarmoset t1_j3yt9zb wrote
I thought you said you weren’t broke anymore?
warlocc_ t1_j3z9r5w wrote
Yes, that's what I said.
What, do you think everyone without a college degree is broke? Now that is naïve.
That's the sort of attitude that makes so many of these kids think they need to take out huge loans they can't afford for degrees that won't help them, we gotta stop this attitude of "people without degrees will suffer".
michaelpenta t1_j3xijqb wrote
I know that in terms of financial aid in 25 years old is when your Parents income is no longer accounted for in your application for financial aid. For some students 25 years old is when they would be able to get a Pell grant because they are no longer counting their parents income. Since the federal pell grant covers a large cost of community college for many students it’s probably part of how they will cover the cost and why the age limit is 25.
Banea-Vaedr t1_j41ekyn wrote
I suspect it's meant to be to deal with chronic homelessness, as that's when the trend really tends to up. Factory workers (like, say, the 500 S&W workers Boston put out because they don't like their politics) who lose their jobs and need training in something else or they'll become homeless the rest of their lives
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