Submitted by SAT0725 t3_1094lvy in massachusetts
NerdWhoLikesTrees t1_j3wffjs wrote
I always supported free Community College but it should be everyone 18 and up, with priority given to people without a college degree already (because obviously class sizes are limited).
SAT0725 OP t1_j3wh45g wrote
> because obviously class sizes are limited
Most community college are cancelling classes these days due to low enrollment. They might seat 20, for example, and have 14 in one and only three in another. So they cancel the second section and just move those students into the first if they can. Other times they'll cancel classes altogether.
When I teach adjunct it's about $2,500 for a semester to teach a full load (at least nine students). For every student less than that you get a pay cut, so most adjuncts won't teach for less than a full load. My class this coming spring only has five students, but I said I'd teach it anyway and it's only like $1,400 for approximately 16 weeks of work.
NerdWhoLikesTrees t1_j3whfpi wrote
That's unfortunate, but hopefully enrollment would shoot way up if it were free. For many people the cost, even though it's relatively inexpensive, is a lot of money to part with
Bobbydadude01 t1_j3whapl wrote
They would probably need admission tests/requirements if the demand is high enough.
I support completely free state schools for students, but I think we need to limit what majors people can go for. Like I love history but it's not the most useful thing to have an abundance of.
davper t1_j3xjrb7 wrote
I agree with limits of subjects. It should Liberal arts that can be transferred to any 4 year school. And include subjects like personal finances and basic culinary arts to prepare the student for the real world. Other classes could include basic intro to career paths. Showing required schooling and the potential income.
Bobbydadude01 t1_j3xksue wrote
....I don't think you know what community college is.
davper t1_j3xpn2y wrote
I know perfectly well what Community College is. I graduated from Bunker Hill back in the 90s. I managed to finish school without any student loans and no help from my parents
It is a great way to take college courses at a lower cost. But the sad part is, some 4 year colleges wont take all your credits. I graduated from CC with an AS in Accounting and an AS in Business Management. When I went to Bentley, I had to take several courses over again.
If they make it free, they should require certain classes.
Not every student takes classes that they should because they are focused only on career goals or a unique degree. I have had to deal with too many idiots fresh out of a 4 year that couldn't live on their own because they have no life skills and/or a degree that only qualifies them for a job at McDonald's.
Bobbydadude01 t1_j3xqwut wrote
Culinary arts being a required course is laughable.
mmmsoap t1_j3zs3mb wrote
> I graduated from CC with an AS in Accounting and an AS in Business Management. When I went to Bentley, I had to take several courses over again.
But those credits would almost assuredly have transferred to UMass. (I don’t know if that was true in the 90s, but it’s absolutely true today.) If you take classes from one of the state community colleges, any of the state universities of UMass will accept the credits. You’re talking about making policy for community college students because you chose to transfer to a private university that unsurprisingly wanted to maximize their revenue by not accepting (certain) transfer credits.
IntelligentMeal40 t1_j3xxt58 wrote
If they make it free it’s probably for matriculated students, which requires specific gen eds already.
At least that’s how it is in California, you have to be a resident of the state for a year, and you have to be matriculated. And you have to be poor enough to qualify for the fee waiver.
paganlobster t1_j3ydwsx wrote
>I graduated from Bunker Hill back in the 90s. I managed to finish school without any student loans and no help from my parents
lmao
NerdWhoLikesTrees t1_j3zdqzm wrote
Asshole
paganlobster t1_j42nd9q wrote
I just think it's funny that you whip this out like anyone can still do it.
NerdWhoLikesTrees t1_j4324s8 wrote
I'm not the commenter you quoted
paganlobster t1_j433b5a wrote
Ah okay, my bad. Then I think it's funny that the original commenter thinks that working through community college in the 90s is in any way still relevant.
NerdWhoLikesTrees t1_j433yl5 wrote
They were told "....I don't think you know what community college is." even though they literally went to bunker hill.
However relevant their experience actually is/was, I don't know.
But if I got my Associates at a community college and someone then told them that I don't know what community college is, yeah, I'd respond too lol.
NativeSon508 t1_j3xrg1b wrote
Sounds kinda like how I wish Voke schools were free for two years after high school. Asking 13/14 yr olds what field they want to work in for the rest of their lives is asinine. Let them graduate reg HS then at 18 they have a better understanding of what they want to do.
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