thatguyonreddit40 t1_j3sqe6o wrote on January 10, 2023 at 8:37 PM

Reply to comment by LetMeSleepNoEleven in Worcester Walmart violated MA law after homeless camp clearing by HRJafael

If we clear the camps the people just go away! Right?

LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_j3svw5v wrote on January 10, 2023 at 9:09 PM

Evidently the theory of some. One person telling me they can’t “be on someone else’s land”. What land in the US is NOT “someone else’s”? My guess is there is literally not a single spot of land in this country that is not owned.

Twombls t1_j3swvho wrote on January 10, 2023 at 9:15 PM

Public land.

Town, state, city, and federal land is where most homless encampments tend to pop up.

LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_j3szy90 wrote on January 10, 2023 at 9:33 PM

If you propose allowing them to stay on public land, I support that. But many locales don’t allow that. In this case they were also cleared off of MassDOT land and Worcester does not permit encamping on public lands.

Edit: This space seems about as out-of-the-way as any in Worcester. Seems Worcester is playing “chase them out of our town. Someone else can deal with it”

RevengencerAlf t1_j3t1men wrote on January 10, 2023 at 9:43 PM

>But many locales don’t allow that

Sounds like you should be looking to change that before making private parties take up that burden and risk.

Property rights don't change just because it's a larger company everyone (including me) hates.

Also, like it or not, if even once, a person from this camp causes an incident with a customer in the parking lot, or even just with someone else at the camp, Wal Mart is at legal risk. Fuck even if the company somehow changes its entire corporate tune and decided out of the charity of their hearts to embrace the plight of the homeless, it doesn't stop someone who gets into an issue, even of their own stupidity, from making a case in court that Wal Mart knew and allowed a "hazard" to customers to develop on their property.

Edit: lol I "understand the point" just fine. I'm just actually equipped to function in the real world and don't just live in a fantasy I've crafted in my head like you.

LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_j3t20wd wrote on January 10, 2023 at 9:45 PM

I definitely think they should be permitted to be on public land.

You keep lecturing me but not understanding the point. So stop please.

Plants_Golf_Cooking t1_j3vzts1 wrote on January 11, 2023 at 1:23 PM

Since when did public land have all the infrastructure needed to keep those public spaces clean from their waste and garbage? The park in down the street has a single port-a-potty. If a homeless camp grew in the park you think the bums won’t just relieve themselves in said park? There is also something to be said about being a public eye-sore.

LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_j3x2vjv wrote on January 11, 2023 at 5:42 PM

That a public eye-sore is more of a matter to you than peoples’ lives is all I need to know. Thanks for playing.

SLEEyawnPY t1_j3uh76j wrote on January 11, 2023 at 3:30 AM

Tenessee is ahead of the curve, the first state to make camping on local public land a felony, in addition to state land.

Being homeless is de-facto illegal in Tennessee at this point. Expect other states & cities to follow suit.

>The felony charge is punishable by up to six years in prison and the loss of voting rights.

Anyone want to make any bets on how many years Sam Bankman-Fried will end up doing? Zero is an allowable guess.