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Girasol28842 t1_j6bc4o1 wrote

Reply to comment by goPACK17 in Holyoke mall shooting by runninginsquare_s

Tbf this is America and this happens every day here. I'm not surprised even a little bit that it finally happened at the Holyoke mall.

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SpecterCody t1_j6bg1u1 wrote

Yep. Today I was bored and said "fuck it I'll go to the mall to walk around and get out". I had this intrusive though that there could be a shooting because they are so common now. Lo and behold it happens when we are there. I was not even surprised, just shaken after the fact finding out it was indeed a shooting.

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Brampire666 t1_j6dieiy wrote

The exact same with me and my friends, I kept saying I thought of this happening we were by round 1 people were way too calm exiting, that it was hard to tell what was going on.

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SpecterCody t1_j6dow1g wrote

Yeah. We saw people just casually walking by towards where it happened when we were hiding at the back of Lens Crafters about 10mins after the event. There wasn't any visible security at that end of the mall. People were still trying to enter the mall as we left the back exit with the employees. It just felt very disorganized. There should have been police/security by every main entrance to alert people.

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Brampire666 t1_j6dqgzh wrote

What was weird is the store security said it was ok to go back in, we left I told my party fuck this let’s go after people started going back in lol

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SpecterCody t1_j6drpd6 wrote

I'm pretty sure it is never just ok for shoppers to go back into a mall after a shooting, suspect apprehended or not lol. Like do we expect the mall employees to just go back to business as usual after a traumatic event?

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RedPandaActual t1_j6bivyv wrote

I am, Holyoke has had a serious decline since covid, it’s not the same place it was before then. Gang activity has been on the rise as the economy tanked more and more. Glad I was finally able to move out but sad at what it’s becoming.

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Rogers_Ebert t1_j6ckqfu wrote

Holyoke was bad 15 years ago when I moved.

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RedPandaActual t1_j6d40t5 wrote

It got better for a while, they really cleaned it up and invested in the school and then it started down hill again.

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Rogers_Ebert t1_j6dafpl wrote

I rolled through about 2-3 years ago and it still looked like a demilitiarized zone. There also ways been a hold out of stable communities the further out you get. But Holyoke was always a no go zone.

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FirefoxAngel t1_j6dsd6p wrote

It was bad before that like Springfield

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Rogers_Ebert t1_j6dsk5n wrote

Grew up in the area in the 90s and 00s. What happened to Springfield is tragic.

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HaElfParagon t1_j6d2o3a wrote

This wasn't gang activity though

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RedPandaActual t1_j6d48iu wrote

To be fair, we don’t know just yet on that front but the gang violence part is definitely true in Holyoke unfortunately.

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FirefoxAngel t1_j6duvit wrote

We don't know yet speaks volumes here the springfield area it was like the innocent guy that had the drive by happen on the 291 a couple years back everyone knew it was gang activities but wasn't said that till a few days after

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11BMasshole t1_j6bhwrq wrote

Not the first shooting at the Holyoke Mall, sadly.

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