The layers come off as you're shoveling. It's quite a workout.

Did he have a dunkys ice coffee with him?

Layers is important in the winter. I always have 3 layers on outside. A shirt, a sweatshirt and an overcoat.

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He must be my neighbor

in flip flops

Who wears short shorts 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶

I did not see one, but I can only assume.

Might have been my nephew.

I did this a couple weeks ago, slippers and shorts for an inch of slush. I also had an iced coffee today.

Shorts or jorts?

Growing up in Mass, everyone knows there’s a kid in class who wears shorts all year round. Those kids grow into adults, and one of them is now your neighbor

I insist my 7 year old wears pants when the outside temperature won't reach 60F. He comes home from school every day with his pants pushed up above his knees. I don't know how much longer I'll be able to enforce no shorts in winter with him. He's going to be that kid.

It was probably plunked into the snow to keep the ice from melting.

I hate that I have to be the one to tell you this, but he's already that kid. You just won't let him wear his uniform.

We wear short shorts!

Actually, having less layers on while doing manual labor (such as shoveling) will help regulate your body.

If for example you go outside and your body is nice and toasty in your three layers, then start shoveling and sweat jn your three layers. The moisture goes on your clothes, then gets cold with the temperature around you. Thereby making your layers a harbor for cold liquid.

Today I went outside barefoot

He’s my dad. He will wear a ski mask, winter jacket, nice thick gloves, winter boots and basketball shorts and take his snowblower for a walk. I haven’t seen him in pants since he retired, outside of funerals.

I wore shorts and Tevas one winter in college. I couldn't really tell you why.

I'm much more into appropriately warm clothing now.

I fucking love this state my god

Still wearing flip flops. I did start wearing socks with them yesterday.

Me too. Seriously the best fucking state to live in by far. I still crack up when I remember the Snowmageddon winter when people were jumping off their triple deckers and Walsh was saying “this isn’t Loon mountain, it’s the city of Boston.” ❤️😂

I recommend cracking open a beer while shoveling snow. It's delicious.

Although when it's really cold, you have to drink that beer quickly, because it will freeze on you. Good old snow-shoveling beer slushies. A true delicacy

(Maybe I am just an alcoholic tho)

I prefer champagne, it keeps better in the snowbanks.

why insist? honest question.

I was that 7 year old. pants suck.

#HAHAHAHAHAHA THATS SO CRAZY AND NOT LIKE THE OTHER HUMAN BEINGS ACROSS THE ENTIRE GLOBE

I used to do this into late autumn/early winter. It was that my legs felt great as long as my feet, hands, head, and torso were warm.

Because his teacher says things like, “it would be nice to see Michael warm”. I am also a teacher. Can I just say, fuck that lady!

I'm going to be the worst parent when I have kids.

mind your own business. like let's not make a value judgement about the ability of a parent to be able to provide warm clothing for their children at the whims of a kid.

kids get hot! it happens! bodies are different! lol

I remember my mom having to write a note saying I was allowed to go out for recess in only a sweatshirt. absolute lunacy. if a child says theyre not cold, perhaps we should listen.

edit to add: not "mind your own business" to yall.. to the nosey teachers 😉

My now 16yo wears shorts every day. He’s been like this for 3+ years. He’ll only put pants on when he skis because he doesn’t like the feel of snow pants on his legs

Yup, always a few nuts in shorts and flip flops every day of the year. I’m thinking thyroid problem or something lol

Or your bartender.

All the way with you! Btw - guess what parents gets judged the hardest? Teacher- moms! Happiest of holidays to you and your awesome mum for writing that note!!!

I am that guy now. It's a result of being lazy as a kid and dead inside as an adult.

I am get the mail barefoot guy now too. I was that kid

Thighs don't get cold. just hands and feet.

I’m that guy. I’ve never once gone outside and said, “Damn, my shins are cold!”

Dunks iced in a blizzard is the quintessential Massachusetts beverage!

That kid reporting in. Outgrew it, eventually, but sometimes it's just too much trouble to switch out your wardrobe, and legs are NBD.

I like the Jäegermeister. The burn is warming.

Oh wow.

That’s definitely only a Massachusetts thing

> if a child says theyre not cold, perhaps we should listen.

You’ll revisit this statement when you have a toddler. I get what you’re saying, but sometimes it’s literally not as simple as “just listen to them”, because they will kill themselves and others around them.

sweatshirt and shorts is the state uniform

I just retrieved my floating dock from the other side of the pond after all that wind. Thigh deep walking it back to my place. That was my first polar plunge lol

I went to Chandler, AZ on a work trip in August. It was like 120f outside. The two things that struck me most were:

1. There were permanent mister stations setup outside most stores for people to cool off under because the heat was so intense.
2. People were walking around with hot coffees and when I asked for an ice coffee at breakfast, I was given a hot coffee with ice in a separate cup. It was a totally foreign concept to them (or they were trolling me).

Our shorts & iced coffee in December is Arizona's hot coffee in August.

My 13 yo son has been wearing shorts everyday for 3 years.

Sounds right. When I lived at the 'rents I wore shorts in the winter because they heat the house to 70 degrees F and I was sleepy all the time. My neighbor has central air, I've seen his kids wearing flannel pj's in summer. Practically speaking though, if you need to just run outside and throw something in the recycle or trash bins or grab the mail, sweep off the steps, why would you get all dressed up in winter gear?

If you dare wear short shorts....

Yep. There was one of those at UMass when I was there. We called him Shorts-And-Shirt (he always wore a t-shirt too).

Absolutely correct

At the Starbucks in Dedham yesterday, 16 degrees outside, some guy rolls in in a BC sweatshirt, knit hat, Adidas shorts. Looked ridiculous but hey, he seemed happy.

Iced coffee year-round for me. How do people drink hot drinks?

Sounds like Ipswich, there’s a guy there growing up who would do that. Some people run hot I guess.

Shoveling is hard work. I may start out cold, but by the end I’m down to a sweaty t shirt/pants/gloves. I’ve shoveled in shorts for sure.

Fascinating.

That was me, shorts year round. My son isn’t as bad, but he refuses to wear anything heavier than a hoodie.

Fun story. We loved to Southern California for a while. Hot and dry obviously. When we moved back, my first day of work I wore a ski jacket, winter gloves, and a winter hat. I was shivering all day long and couldn’t warm up. It was 50F out ;P I still get made fun of to this day…

I read that as Mr. Stations several times and was bewildered.

Accurate.

Just some average Joe showing off his masculinity... I have lived here for 20 years and it always fascinated me

Winter activewear is the best for shoveling. Something thin and tight but moisture wicking and all you need is one more layer to stop the wind.

“It’s not even cold bro!”

Get him the pants that zip off the legs at the knees or make them.

My hood has a kid we call no shirt. He a living legend

Better than hair gel and drakkar noir. Whoa badda bing

lol. Theres a difference between a toddler and a 7 year old.

But please, go off.

Of course I knew that kid! He was me!

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No need to be a smart ass.

> I’m going to be the worst parent when I have kids.

So you are just speculating, but you don’t actually know. Yeah there are a lot of differences between a 3 year old and a 7 year old, but can you give a percentage to determine exactly how much better at making decisions a 7 year old is than a 3 year old? How much more reliable are they verbally? It’s also heavily dependent on the actual kid - I would trust my 2 year old more in some situations than I would trust some od the high school kids I teach.

You’re advocating for giving a 2nd grader some voice in their own choices, which is fine. You have to give them some responsibility to teach them about it, yeah. But spend some time around that age group and you’ll realize that they will do shit like refuse to put on a jacket when it’s negative windchill just because an adult is asking them to. Or maybe their friend has a cooler jacket than them and they would rather freeze their balls off than feel embarrassed by their “dumb” jacket. Or maybe their dad didn’t let them play Fortnite as long as they wanted to, so wearing the jacket becomes a line in the sand against his dad.

You might think I’m exaggerating for the sake of an internet argument, but I’ll circle back to my original statement:

When you have kids, you’ll revisit just letting kids of that age do what they tell you they want to do. The parents who actually do employ the “never say no” approach don’t even realize the disaster they set up for their kids when it comes to socialization, and yes, other people can always tell.

And as far as your “nosey teacher” comment, do you actually have any concept of what would happen to a teacher if they actually let a kid outside in the cold without being dressed properly? “Johnny said he was warm enough”…don’t you think someone might eventually ask “why did you listen to a 7 year old”? If you are going to be a hyper progressive parent, that’s fine, but teachers literally don’t have the freedom to make that choice.

not reading your long ass reply. but please again, continue assuming things about me you can't possibly know.

Merry Christmas.

listen to your kids.

Great discussion! You win the shitty redditor award for Christmas Day!

You said yourself “when I have kids”, and you even did you were going to be bad at it. I’m not assuming anything. You’re the one assuming that me, a teacher of 15 years and father of 2, “doesn’t listen” to kids.

Not a puritan, you have no idea what my up bringing actually was and you wrote paragraphs instead of entertaining something might be hyperbole/jokes.

so you.. took one thing and made a whole backstory about who I am.

Cool!

Merry Christmas dude. log off reddit and touch some grass. fucking hell

BTW please tell me where you teach so I can avoid your annoying ass attitude

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And every body says Ohio will take over the world And there’s mass

60! My rule is freezing. For both my son and daughter

Hopefully he was also wearing the required Pats hoodie

Ehh, as long you wear a decent beanie you can run around bare ass... give or take laws and shit. But yeah, heat rises so as long as ain't fawkin layin down or something you should be good.

Lol soooooo cringe, the little ego game you’re playing right now

Lol soo cringe the trying to be a bully but succeeding in being a twat game you’re playing right now