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IamTalking t1_j1q6u7c wrote

Reply to comment by funsk8mom in Anyone else has the flu? by Emergency-Candy1677

Those are the guidelines, how long would you like for them to be out?

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funsk8mom t1_j1qe6rs wrote

Until they are well enough to function. Just because the fever is gone doesn’t mean they’re 100%. Sending a barely functioning zombie to school isn’t helpful. My personal favorite is the wide open faucet of snot pouring from their face and using their hand to wipe it and then wipe their snot soaked hand on the tables. That was fun to scrape off last week

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1qs2ex wrote

Seriously, if kids gross you out so much, and you hate the parents this much, you should consider a change in careers. Kids are ALWAYS snotty and gross, post pandemic or not. And your condescension towards poor parents is what really gross.

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ArmlessGeodude t1_j1qzj98 wrote

It's condescending for you to expect everyone who works with kids to adore all kids. I am not surprised or offended that a person who spends their days with kids thinks they're heinous little cesspits.

I work with kids too. When the kids are heinous little cesspits, I assume they got it from their parents.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1r6dyl wrote

No, it’s toxic and horrific you think kids are heinous little cesspits. It’s disgusting that you work with children. I’ve been a teacher, and no. I don’t think they are heinous. They just spread germs.

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bb5199 t1_j1rebxx wrote

Correct. First need to be fever free. But also need to be functioning and can make it through a day of school without being a zombie.

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Roszo21 t1_j1qpcx4 wrote

It's uncomfortable to see a teacher be so judgmental when you don't know their family situation. There are plenty of parents who don't get paid sick leave at all, get minimal sick leave that they use up quickly due to sick kids, or are threatened by their bosses when they use it. There may not be much of an option.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1qt135 wrote

Their reaction is honestly gross. But people forget how hateful many of the teachers and administrators were when we were in school. I don’t think much has changed

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funsk8mom t1_j1qtfy7 wrote

People forget that teachers aren’t immune to germs either. People forget that it’s our job to teach your children, not be their puke bucket, diarrhea scraper or booger catcher.

School is not babysitting so you can go to work. You made the choice to have children, you have to understand the sacrifice it takes to raise them. Teachers don’t get an unlimited amount of sick time and we certainly don’t get paid enough to be teacher, nurse and parent. We barely get paid enough survive on 1 job. Most teachers work 2-3 additional jobs.

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Roszo21 t1_j1rb9nx wrote

I agree with you. But I don't expect parents trying to put food on the table to solve an issue that is fundamentally a societal and political problem. All workers deserve generous guaranteed paid leave. Our government has continually let us all down by favoring corporate overlords. You're getting mad at the wrong people.

And if you think children are a choice that just requires sacrifices you a) don't understand the realities of life for truly low income people and b) are probably burnt out and in need of a new profession.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1qv2pi wrote

If teaching sucks that bad, find another job. Talking shit about children and their parents the way you do is not an acceptable response to a difficult job. If you hate that difficult job so much, change jobs. If you need extra jobs to survive, welcome to working in America. You’re not special just because you’re teacher. Do you think people who work hourly jobs don’t have to get exposed to people who are sick all the time in order to pay their bills?

You made the choice to be a teacher, if you didn’t understand the sacrifices involved, you shouldn’t have become a teacher. Just turning that comment about having children back on you… you do realize that some people get pregnant by accident, but you sure as hell didn’t become a teacher by accident, right?

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mycatisminnie t1_j1qw9ct wrote

LOL I don’t understand how you are equating bring a teacher with some sort of healthcare worker? School is not daycare. Wtf?

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1qwq3z wrote

The commenter above said that having children is a choice and that if we didn’t understand the sacrifices involved, we shouldn’t have had them. If they didn’t understand the sacrifices involved in being a teacher, which has always involved being around sick kids, they shouldn’t have become a teacher. The pandemic didn’t change the fact that sick kids go to school. The fact that teacher want to both be above reproach because they sacrifice so much, but not be expected to sacrifice bc PANDEMIC, is ridiculous. Do you think wait staff don’t get get exposed to sick people all the time? Retail? How much do you think that grocery store clerk gets paid? Lmao…

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ArmlessGeodude t1_j1r1mxr wrote

Yes, of course. Careers are equivalent to parenting. The decision to pursue a career is just like having a child and taking care of. Totally the same things.

That's sarcasm. Figured you'd need the explainer.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1r94ai wrote

I love how you make my point for me… they ARE totally different. A career choice is always a choice, being a parent isn’t always a choice. You can change your career, but you rarely get to change things once you are a parent. So, yeah, choosing to be a teacher is something that you shouldn’t do if you aren’t prepared for the sacrifices. I work in public service. I know what we put in and what we get out. Lmao… don’t make the choice and then think teachers are any more special than any other public servant.

And it sure is easier to change careers than change being a parent. 😂😂😂

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ArmlessGeodude t1_j1r9z6s wrote

Pretty easy to not be a parent. Sounds like you got in over your head. Should have thought that one through.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1rac1x wrote

Okay, Mr. Calls Me an Old White Republican… seems like you are super in touch with what Republicans have done to reproductive rights…😂😂😂 Or how biology works. But I guess you think birth control is foolproof and that everyone can get an abortion, or wants to. 😂😂😂😂

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1r66y5 wrote

Really? Homeschooling is the better option for poor people? 😂

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ArmlessGeodude t1_j1r6m2w wrote

I didn't say it was. I'm saying you're complaining about a public service that you pay taxes for. You don't have to use it if you don't like it. So if you have issue with it, the way to change things isn't by attacking a teachers who is frustrated with how stupid people are.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1r8k0z wrote

Ahhh!!! Don’t use public services that you paid for if you don’t like them! Great advice!

Or… promote programs that allow parents to stay home with their sick kids… Ill take the “Doing Something To Change the Public Service I Pay For and Vote About and SHOULD Be an Active Citizen in Trying to Improve Public Services” for $200 Alex!

God, you are hysterical… I pay for it, so I shouldn’t have any say in how it’s run? Lmao!

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ArmlessGeodude t1_j1r9gdy wrote

Since you're slow, I'm calling you out for attacking a teacher. You seem to have some modicum of understanding about how to actually address the problem, but you'll still have a tantrum on Reddit when someone tells you you're in the wrong. Have fun voting Republican, old timer. The world doesn't need you anymore.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1ra15o wrote

You are so wrong I’m dying laughing… 😂😂😂

Edit: All you trolls on here are the same. You think you make a mike-drop comeback and then block someone like a coward before you have to see a response.

So here it is: Seems like someone can’t look at a profile before making ad hominem attacks that prove how wrong they are😂

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mycatisminnie t1_j1qmwfu wrote

Until they are better. I don’t understand why we’d ever encourage sick people to be out in public

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IamTalking t1_j1qnonc wrote

Define better. Are you saying better in terms of contagious, or 100% asymptomatic?

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mycatisminnie t1_j1quzkh wrote

If someone is hacking and boogering all over the place they should not be in public. Or take a cough suppressant or something. I can’t believe the amount of people that walk around spewing their phlegm everywhere. If they really have to be out in public, at least give them a cough suppressant or decongestant. People are so f’ing gross.

I get it, sometimes you still have to be out and about. What I don’t get is why these people can’t do the polite thing and take some medicine to suppress their symptoms while they’re around others. Or suck on a cough drop so you don’t need to cough all over the place. Gross

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IamTalking t1_j1r81sl wrote

The polite thing is to not spread an illness, meaning staying out of school while in the contagiousness period. Expecting parents to give their kids cough suppressants, which are generally a horrible idea for little kids, just to be "polite" is very weird. Kids can have boogers for month on end, do you want parents to load them up with Sudafed daily just to be polite?

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bb5199 t1_j1rehhr wrote

Yeah, the boogers thing the person mentioned is stupid. Lots of kids have congestion or runny noses. They don't need to stay home for that.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1qrty2 wrote

Because parents can’t afford to miss the work. That needs to be fixed before we can change the recommendations or the choices people make. Sending your kid to school still sick sounds like a stupid choice until you have decide whether your next paycheck will buy enough food, pay for rent, and keep the heat and electric on. Missing a day of work is the difference between having the electricity turned off for many families. I’ve personally been there

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Valuable-Baked t1_j1qxtne wrote

And electric/heat is now 3x more expensive than it used to be

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ArmlessGeodude t1_j1r1rsy wrote

Sounds like you should just get a better job. Try harder. Work around more sick people, since that's what you think a job entails. /s

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E5D5 t1_j1qppj4 wrote

Guidelines are typically fever free AND improving

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IamTalking t1_j1qtjv7 wrote

For sure! Improving, not improved.

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ArmlessGeodude t1_j1qz852 wrote

This things are not mutually exclusive.

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IamTalking t1_j1r0uwl wrote

They're two different things in this context.

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ArmlessGeodude t1_j1r6bwq wrote

If you're improving from an illness, you must already be improved to some degree.

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IamTalking t1_j1r6l8q wrote

Improving meaning ongoing, progress, but not resolved. A continuation of symptoms, but perhaps less severe. You can have an improvement of symptoms, but still have nasal discharge, cough, etc.

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ArmlessGeodude t1_j1r702o wrote

Ok I'm with you. I don't believe this means less contagious.

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IamTalking t1_j1r7b0g wrote

When you have improving symptoms and a resolution in fever >24hrs with no medication, that is our best guess for when you are no longer contagious. Again, this is the guideline. If people are upset with that, I'm not sure what to tell you, it's the same guidelines from school nurses to pediatricians.

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Cobrawine66 t1_j1qm5k9 wrote

For as long as they aren't spreading it? How is that not common sense?

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IamTalking t1_j1qnlxx wrote

For the most part, they aren't spreading it when they have been fever free for 24hrs without medication, which is why it's the guideline. If you wait until kids aren't congested they'll be out of school until the spring

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mycatisminnie t1_j1qwe6k wrote

Ahhh yes. Just screw everyone else because booger McGee should just be allowed to spew germs all over everyone

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bb5199 t1_j1reyzx wrote

Correct. All kids have boogers and have runny noses either during a cold or when improving from an illness. So yes, Booger McGee should go to school. Do you have kids? Your comments seem incongruent with raising young children.

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IamTalking t1_j1qy8o8 wrote

What do you propose the guidelines should be?

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