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somegridplayer t1_iz4ja10 wrote

TLDR: non profit tells residents shit they already knew

Market Basket is the cheapest

Wegmans and Whole Foods are the most expensive but best quality.

Stop and Shop can get fucked

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CaptainDash t1_iz4jlp9 wrote

No link to the actual rankings, just an article that serves as a puff piece for widely recognized major chains.

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singalong37 t1_iz4nra3 wrote

Disappointing that price is the main criterion. Quality too but what's their measure of quality? People who'd rather not buy stuff shipped across the continent but instead get food produced in the northeastern states, or who want food that isn't full of herbicides and pesticides and growth hormones, what is this "consumer nonprofit" doing for them? When we had Bread & Circus in Massachusetts there was some effort sell sustainably produced food from local sources but WF doesn't care about that nor do any other of these commercial chains. It's all about price, convenience, "quality"...

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massahoochie t1_iz4vlc4 wrote

I moved here in 2020. There is a Shaws 2 minutes from my home. I have been going to it for 2 years, and always wondered why my grocery bill is so god damn expensive. And the quality of produce is garbage. I went to Market basket (20 minute drive) for the first time last week and got my weekly groceries for 30% less!!!! The quality was superior. My jaw was on the ground and I feel scammed by Shaws. Fuck Shaws. Market basket FTW.

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Thatguyyoupassby t1_iz4xv7i wrote

Overall this feels generally correct.

I lived in Boston proper for 7 years, Quincy for 4, and just moved down to the south shore into a single family home.

In Boston, stop n shop and star market had the "best" prices, which meant cheaper than Whole Foods and Roche, but definitely lacked in quality, especially when it came to meat, fish, and produce.

When I moved to Quincy, we started driving to Wegmans to see what it was all about and it became our go-to place for groceries. I personally found it cheaper than the Stop n Shop in Quincy, and the produce was WAY better. Their fish quality is honestly on par or better than Whole Foods most of the time, but the one draw back is they have a VERY small meat department. Both the Westwood and Natick locations had next to no fresh cut red meat if you wanted a nicer steak.

I had never been to a Market Basket until like 2 months ago when we moved, and I gave in and went. I thought I would hate it based off everything i'd heard about the quality, but honestly? I think it's on par or better than Stop n Shop/Shaws, and like a half step down from Wegmans. Their produce is perfectly fine. Plenty of fresh herbs to choose from, and the one in Hanover has a nice selection of Asian vegetables to choose from, which I appreciate. Their meat department is fantastic, and the only issue I have is their fish is pretty meh.

Having said that, I pay a good $20-40 less each week for the same cart at Market Basket than I did at Wegmans. It adds up quick and I get the love-fest with Market Basket at this point.

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Thatguyyoupassby t1_iz4ygig wrote

For real - the stories of Market Basket being so much cheaper are very much legit. I thought it was just local hype, but no, MB is solidly 20-30% cheaper than everyone else, and the quality is great. Their meat and produce is much cheaper, and unlike Stop n Shop and Shaws, they have weekly deals on things people actually seem to buy, so you can toss in some extras and save on bulk items.

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Ialnyien t1_iz53vz3 wrote

It’s incredible the lack of choices in western Massachusetts for supermarkets. Stop and shop quality is atrocious, big y is overpriced, and the local ones have little options.

I’d kill for a market basket or Wegmanns out here. Even a whole food in the Springfield area would be a godsend

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radwagondesign t1_iz54ush wrote

i dont notice any sort of quality lack in stop and shop's product. the experience, however.. jesus christ. i can't go into one of those stores for any reason without it somehow turning into a fiasco.

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singalong37 t1_iz56k4e wrote

I just think when some consumer group evaluates supermarkets the criteria should be broader than just price. If the conversation is just price then the chains can avoid the whole question of where the food comes from, how sustainably produced, basically the whole food production system. The consumer group is colluding with the supermarket chains to limit the conversation to price and “quality,” whatever that is supposed to mean, and keep ppl ignorant of the source issues.

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bombalicious t1_iz5a2r9 wrote

As far as Produce, they have an amazing range of items. Some stores carry more/different items depending what neighborhood they’re in. In my opinion, because they are so busy it’s as fresh as it gets. Other store are for show Market Basket is there for the people!

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bombalicious t1_iz5aba4 wrote

20 years ago in Rhode Isand, just as I was moving to massachusetts , Shaws made you bag your own groceries…I never got over that. To this day I thank my baggers at Market Basket.

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kingrobot3rd t1_iz5afw0 wrote

my sister who used to live in SF recently moved to eastern MA. when she visited me out in amherst and we went grocery shopping.

her jaw hit the floor when we passed big y, stop and shop, target, and trader joe’s on the way to whole foods in under 5 minutes.

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SeaworthinessLeft88 t1_iz5amhp wrote

I love Market Basket, but I hate shopping in Market Basket. The crowds are always insane at my local MB, and they’re always restocking in the already too narrow aisles. It’s like mad max of grocery shopping. I once had a lady crash through my cart and multiple carts as she wanted to go through the lines backed up for all ~20 open checkout aisles. The place is always a madhouse, no matter the day and time I go.

If Instacart ever supported MB (or if MB had their own delivery option a la Walmart), it would probably be the only place that I would shop. Right now, I mostly shop Aldi via Instacart, then pick up the few things they don’t have at stop and shop.

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bombalicious t1_iz5b0iu wrote

At least with that you know the terms….shaws and Stop and Shop procure their stuff the same way Market Basket does. When it’s locally produced(produce, bread etc.) market basket marks it that way. Don’t think Bread and Circus has the only line on locally Produced items, they just specialized in it.

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Aeronaute t1_iz5ba3n wrote

Except for the part that mentions Hannaford...

"Price is where Market Basket excels. Consumers' Checkbook says $100 worth of groceries would only cost $82 on average at Market Basket, a savings of 18 percent. That bags the store second place in the price category, behind Walmart by only one dollar ($81) and ahead of Hannaford ($89) and Target ($92)."

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bizzybounc311 t1_iz5du0e wrote

What y’all don’t know is Market Basket pays cash for everything as in Whole Foods in Shaws gets everything on the coffe into the books by 1.5% interest every month

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mediaseth t1_iz5i7xd wrote

My local Whole Foods has gone downhill significantly since the Amazon buyout. Yet, the next nearest Whole Foods seems alright and has more variety. I'm not sure why this is. Last time in my local WF, I actually saw moldy produce. I've NEVER seen that in a WF before. I'd shop exclusively at MB if they carried everything I wanted/needed and they kicked the scammers out of their parking lot. They almost carry everything at this point...

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SarcasmoSupreme t1_iz5l20v wrote

I am 100% fuck shaws. There are two in my town, one moved locations. Shaw's held on to the lease for an empty building to prevent MB from coming into town, they finally let it go when a Trampoline park wanted in the location.

Fuck Shaws

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RC1172 t1_iz5modm wrote

I saw this when it aired last night. I don’t think I heard them mention Price Chopper/Market 32. How do people feel about them?

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[deleted] t1_iz5pzo6 wrote

The baggers do such an awful job, though. Like, meat packed side by side with cleaning products, bread underneath cans, frozen and hot items in the same bag. It's far and away the worst experience I've ever had at any supermarket, ever.

A market basket with a self checkout is my dream. I try to bag my own items in MB and I spend half the time arguing with the clerks that I don't need "help" from them. I talk to the managers about how the 12 year olds they've hired this year are just straight up destroying people's groceries and the manager is like "so shop during school hours?"

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[deleted] t1_iz5qwxt wrote

The biggest issue with Market basket is their company policies on enforced bagging and on shelf "straightening." Half the time I'm looking for something at MB, it's been buried on a shelf by some idiot kid who doesn't understand that products have varieties, and they thought the shelf would be prettier if all the boxes looked the same. And those same idiot kids get my groceries when I'm checking out and completely destroy them. Great, I saved $1 on ice cream, but this kid decides to pack it on top of a rotisserie chicken and bury the whole mess at the bottom of the cart under 2 12 packs of soda, so when I get to my car I've lost $10 because I have to throw out the ice cream and the chicken.

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LowBarometer t1_iz5r4yx wrote

Price Rite is cheaper than Market Basket, but the selection has gotten soooo much worse. In some categories, like chips, cookies, and breakfast cereal, they have very little to choose from.

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momoneymocats1 t1_iz5ssox wrote

As someone who has shopped stop and shop my entire life….am I a monster

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sidran32 t1_iz5vzly wrote

I'll drive further for Wegmans if I want a lot of groceries or to have lunch before shopping. Their produce section seems to be consistently the best that I've seen in terms of quality and choice.

Price Chopper is a good convenient one for odd hours but their bakery isn't that good.

Hannaford is closest to me so it's most convenient but their produce section isn't that great. Really good bakery section though.

I used to like Stop & Shop decades ago but they've fallen behind for me.

There's a Shaw's by me but I keep forgetting it exists.

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Hawkstinubs44 t1_iz62w0h wrote

I never knew you could get bad bananas until Stop N Shop. They never turned yellow. I'm still amazed.

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itallendsintears t1_iz630tl wrote

There is Guido’s: then there are every other grocery store in mass in a distant distant second tier

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EconomySeaweed7693 t1_iz6bzkl wrote

Have you ever been a bagger? Esp at a place like Market Basket lmao that is packed.

Ur trying to get done as fast as possible. If you,as the customer, put meat next to ur cleaning products on the conveyor, I'm sorry it's going in the same bag. I gotta keep the line moving , idc.

Whenever I go to a supermarket,I always put my meats next to each other, and organize my conveyor so everything does not end up in the same bag.

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[deleted] t1_iz6fhf3 wrote

I worked front end in a supermarket for 3 years. Yeah, I also organize the belt to basically have my bags organized by the time they get to the cashier. But then the cashier grabs things randomly from the belt and hands them to the bagger in whatever order they choose and the whole thing gets messed up. It would just be easier if the cashier and the front end manager let me bag my own stuff. But the second a customer touches a bag, it’s a code red in the store and I’ve got a crowd of baggers standing by watching me.

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Linux-Is-Best t1_iz6lgir wrote

I would like them to rank these in Western Mass. -- Truly, it sometimes feels like we are 2 different states. We have NO Market Basket or most of the stores they listed.

Western Mass:

  • Big Y Supermarket
  • Stop & Shop
  • Aldi
  • Walmart
  • Target
  • Price Rite
  • Save-A-Lot

Then we have a few national limited regional stores:

  • Trader Joe's (there is only 1, so I count it as regional)
  • Whole Foods (only 1)
  • BJ's Wholesale (only 1)
  • Costco Wholesale (only 1)

But I wouldn't expect them to rate every small "Mom and Pop" type around here. I'd be more curious about their view of the national stores.

If they wanted to cover those local stores (to name a few):

  • Atkins Farms Country Market (only 1, Hadley)
  • Big E Supermarket (only 1, Easthampton)
  • River Valley Coop (only 2, Easthampton / Northampton)
  • State Street Fruit Store (only 1, Northampton)
  • Cooper's Corner (only 1, Florence)
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MusicalMerlin1973 t1_iz6sk46 wrote

My only complaint with market basket is they don’t keep items that fly off the shelves in stock. Even pre Covid it was hit or miss.

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rollergirl77 t1_iz6vl6j wrote

Produce is the one thing that keeps me from Market Basket the most. I used to live a 5 min walk from one and still went elsewhere because their strawberries would be moldy after 1 day in the fridge, oranges were dry, and I can’t even start on salad ingredients.

I’m ok paying more for quality. Wegmans and Star (both near my job) are my produce go to.

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Crazyhellga t1_iz6xq8a wrote

As I learned with very green bananas from Aldi's, when they are brought out too early - green-green instead of white-green - it can take 2-3 weeks to ripen. Wrap them up in a plastic bag to speed up the process.

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Crazyhellga t1_iz6y8kl wrote

I love Wegmans, but I mostly shop at Price Chopper which also happens to be the closest grocery store to me. I do occasionally stop by Hannaford's, Shaw's, Stop & Shop if they are on my way already (prefer Shaw's out of the three of them, the one on the Watertown/Cambridge border is great), but I found Market Basket disappointing on my first and only visit there. Trader Joe's and Aldi's are more for something specific only they carry. Whole Foods only if a friend who is a big fan drags me in there.

I tend to shop by what I like instead of going by price, though...

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WooNoto t1_iz7fiux wrote

Article sucks. At least provide the rankings somewhere or a link to it. Smh.

Waiting for the market basket near me to open up. Quality has always been good, prices are some of the best around and usually cook what groceries I buy within a couple of days anyways. With prices of everything being astronomical right now, I’m not paying the insane Wegmans or Whole food prices.

Stop & Shop can fuck off. What ridiculous prices for the shit they have.

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brightyellowhaha t1_iz7g62s wrote

Wmass native who know lives in eastern mass. I go to Big Y 90% of the time. Shaws is closed but as others have said their produce and meat selection is sub par. I was going to wegmans but it was just too damn crowded all the time. I think Big Y’s produce is far superior and I like their bakery. I also like how they source local goods especially when wmass asparagus is in season. Plus when I’m in there it’s like a little taste of home.

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ctusa73 t1_iz7k7cf wrote

I actually worked there long ago. Shit unions . You get bennies mostly for the the butcher's while most employees are better off taking advantage of zero copay medicaid.unions protect the worse so you really have no reason to give a shit, except to get hours. Even the bathrooms are shit.

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ohmyashleyy t1_iz7qpnp wrote

I worked at shaw’s in high school and when it was slow, they’d make us go block the aisles - what you call straightening. It’s really just supposed to be pulling stuff forward, not mixing things around, but the first thought I had last time I went into an MB was “wow this is some impressive blocking”

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starsandfrost t1_iz7qxeq wrote

The lack of choice and the prices really are shocking. Things that cost $4 at Market Basket are like $8 or sometimes $10 at Big Y or Stop and Shop out here. I'd kill for a Market Basket.

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kingrobot3rd t1_iz7raol wrote

closest grocery store to her is a stop and shop and it’s 15 minutes away. 12 if no traffic. i think the closest good grocery store is like 25+ minutes away. from what i’ve gathered that’s how it is for most folks in MA.

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Crazyhellga t1_iz7y7f7 wrote

What makes fruit ripen is ethylene gas. You want to trap it around the fruit - plastic is generally less permeable than paper thus they will ripen faster that way. Sunlight usually damages the peel more than it affects the outside though it can make ripening less even - but its effects are far less than that of ethylene.

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UpCoconut t1_iz8yf4j wrote

There isn't a market basket near me, but where I used to live there were 2 within 5 miles of each other. Friends and I used to call them USA Market Basket and Soviet Union Market Basket. USA was OK. USSR was produce was in shrink wrap, shelves always empty, dairy products expired in the case...complete train wreck. It was so weird that two stores of the same brand so close together had such a different experience.

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brotillathehun t1_iz8ykou wrote

Living in Beverly, I was a mile away from 2 stop and shops, Whole Foods and a Shaw’s. Yet the wife and I still drove to Danvers or Middleton to go to MB.

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Selarom13 t1_iz91x7f wrote

They’ve had it much longer than that. I did instacart years ago in like 2018 and all of the orders were through market basket this was in Manchester nh at the time though.

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Ill-Telephone-7926 t1_iz92j8t wrote

Go write to Consumer’s Checkbook about their criteria if you’d like to see it changed. The report is at https://www.checkbook.org/boston-area/supermarkets/ (paywall)

In regards to global warming specifically, my understanding is that what one chooses to eat is much more important than where it came from. That is, locally sourced beef emissions >>> imported produce emissions. Here’s an explainer: https://youtu.be/F1Hq8eVOMHs?t=226. I mention this only to highlight that this aspect of sustainability is complicated and occasionally counterintuitive.

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Megsmik8 t1_iza5s5x wrote

It depends on your area and even if they are available in it. I think if they're a super high traffic store, they don't allow instacart. I live in Newton and mine uses the one in Waltham. Which is why I'm guessing mine has it.

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newestJourney t1_izb5lyo wrote

That's unfair to Wegmans. They have a ton of their own brand that is priced way better. Plus a lot of niche items for vegetarians, etc that MB and others just can't touch. Rating on that "convenience" factor should also matter.

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