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Junius_Brutus t1_iukxfm7 wrote

Reply to comment by harborspirit in These idiots need to be stopped! by smedlap

Ummm, these people were lodged there under an emergency situation, with their knowledge and consent. The people DeSantis sent to MV were lured into going to MV under false pretenses as part of a political stunt. The difference is glaringly obvious.

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Graflex01867 t1_iul1ojz wrote

Exactly. There’s a huge difference between the government putting people up in a hotel so they’re not sleeping on the street and the government just dumping some people onto an airplane to take them somewhere else.

The government is gasp contracting with a hotel to do what hotels are designed to do!

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harborspirit t1_iukxuyc wrote

No its not - they are two groups of illegal immigrants that do not speak English. Do you have any idea how far away Martha's Vineyard is to Kingston? It's not very far at all.

In fact, it further proves desantis' point. There is a massive illegal immigrant border crisis and we're going to run out of empty hotels soon. Sooner or later, they WILL have to take them in on Martha's Vineyard.

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smedlap OP t1_iul1pav wrote

If you ever went to the Vineyard or Nantucket you would see the many immigrants from the Caribbean working there. If you think no one in The Inkwell speaks Creole, think again.

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ExpressiveLemur t1_iumabqb wrote

You keep saying illegal immigrants, but the article clearly states they are migrants, some of whom are undocumented. They make no reference to the languages they speak or do not.

None of that really matters, of course, but you are clearly writing a false narrative.

The difference is that DeSantis just lied to people and then dumped them on a small island without any plan to support them in any way. Moving a group of migrants to a hotel is extremely different. If you can't recognize that you lack the cognitive skills needed to opine on the topic.

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JaesopPop t1_iun375k wrote

How telling that you incorrectly assume the parties involved are illegal immigrants. Or maybe that’s what your preferred news source told you.

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harborspirit t1_iukyaua wrote

You're also telling me that there was NOT an emergency situation for the migrants that were sent to MV, but there was for the migrants sent to Kingston, and that somehow makes any of this okay!?

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PHD_Memer t1_ium191d wrote

Are you insane? There WAS an emergency in MV and as a result the government relocated them to a location with better resources. Fuck outa here with these dishonest questions go live in Alabama if youre gonna act like this

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harborspirit t1_ium6458 wrote

Is Kingston a place with better resources? I really don't understand how you guys are able to put MV migrants and Kingston migrants in two different boxes in your heads.

The point is we have so many fucking illegal immigrants that were literally using our tax dollars to pay for food and hotels to house them. DeSantis was right to send them to MV because it got the country's attention finally.

Down vote me all you want, I'm speaking the uncomfortable truth!

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PHD_Memer t1_ium7j0h wrote

Yes kingston has more resources are you kidding lmfao. It’s not a seasonal town that has it’s local economy drain to nil every winter. And it’s well connected to the rest of the south shore. And no, we aren’t wasting tax payer money to try and help human beings. Because these people, grab your hood for this one, PAY TAXES, wow crazy, every transaction they make, job they work, action they do, drives activity; economic, cultural, or social, in this commonwealth. It’s been a well documented fact that immigrants actually give and help economies grow. And no buddy you are NOT speaking the truth, you’re just another one of the all too common racists in the south shore who are terrified to see the white suburban state they were raised in disappearing, and to make it worse you see how others don’t care that it’s changing. Massachusetts will continue to become more diverse, more multicultural, and hopefully strive to provide better and more robust immigration infrastructure for future bay staters to settle in, because thats a GOOD thing, for all of us. If you want to be upset about shit, then you should really take a look at some other policy issues that warrant criticism on the south shore. We are RIDDLED with NIMBYS who will pretend to want to help, but say the same shit you do. Get angry that towns make high density apartment construction so limited, exasperating the housing crisis, or how we lack a real public transit system outside the metro area which places unnecessary burdens on urban communities in terms of being able to house new individuals and families. Our state has MANY issues, many that require immediate attention and are not talked about enough since it’s so much worse elsewhere. But brown people speaking Spanish/Portuguese/Creole/French? Not a problem at all

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PakkyT t1_iumdyj1 wrote

> And no, we aren’t wasting tax payer money to try and help human beings.

You are just waiting your breath. Neocons are never happy unless they are directly causing pain and suffering to actual people they don't approve of. They are thrilled when they can pass some law and then immediate go hurt someone with it.

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PHD_Memer t1_iumh1j1 wrote

Yah absolutely, this isn’t so much as me trying to convince him on anything it’s more just public shaming, can’t really make people afraid to be racist online so the best options kinda just cyber bully them

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